The times I've heard the words, it usually does, but I don't know if it always does. Are there other other words like this?

....exsanguination..........

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I say drowned yes but electrocuted no, I've been electrocuted and didn't die.

Ditto.

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....exsanguination..........

Yeah, pretty tough to come back from that one. ^

Drowning and electrocution, though, the trick in both cases is to get them breathing and conscious again as soon as possible. With drowning that'll involve getting the water out of their lungs. With electrocution that could involve establishing a regular heartbeat again.

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I say drowned yes but electrocuted no, I've been electrocuted and didn't die.

There are also those cases where a drowned person is successfully revived once their body is recovered.

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People who have drowned who arrive at a hospital with spontaneous circulation and breathing usually recover with good outcomes.[54] Early provision of basic and advanced life support improve probability of positive outcome.[50]

Longer duration of submersion is associated with lower probability of survival and higher probability of permanent neurological damage.[54]

In this hypothetical, is the victim Rasputin?

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I say drowned yes but electrocuted no, I've been electrocuted and didn't die.

Ditto.

In the original usage, electrocuted meant you suffered an electric sufficient to kill you. The usage has broadened lately to include being severely injured, but a normal or strong electric shock would not be considered "electrocuted".

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I say drowned yes but electrocuted no, I've been electrocuted and didn't die.

Ditto.

In the original usage, electrocuted meant you suffered an electric sufficient to kill you. The usage has broadened lately to include being severely injured, but a normal or strong electric shock would not be considered "electrocuted".

OK. Makes sense.

I was shocked enough to throw me back several feet and unable to get up for a minute or so, but no burns or lasting damage. I guess this would count as “shocked” rather than electrocuted.

I knew someone who lost his arm and spent time in intensive care after making contact with an overhead high voltage line. He could be described as electrocuted

The dictionary is pretty clear.

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The dictionary is pretty clear.

Whose dictionary? and when published?

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I say drowned yes but electrocuted no, I've been electrocuted and didn't die.

Tougher than leather you are.

I used to think electrocuted meant dead. Then learned otherwise. Yeah, like every other sparky, I’ve been electrocuted. Several times. Probably should have died.

Drowned ? Yeah, that happened to me when I was knocked unconscious swimming down a waterfall in Canada. I survived because I floated face up. Behind the falls. And when I swam out I discovered the camp counselors searching the river for my body.

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“Cbelt3. We think he’s dead.”

“Uh.. that’s me ?”

I always thought so until recently, but technically no. But drowned still almost always means they died, electrocuted less so but still usually...

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The dictionary is pretty clear.

Whose dictionary? and when published?

That was copied from the dictionary built into mac os 10.14

The AP Stylebook (the bible of journalism) specifies that drowned can only be used when the victim dies by suffocation in a liquid. Anything less can at best be called a near-drowning. the difference is the tense (-ed vs -ing). A living person can do something, a dead person cannot.

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I say drowned yes but electrocuted no


Agreed.

I think most people believe electrocuted means death by electricity/electrocution.

With no formal reference, I say electrocution mean LOC and/or burns from electricity, which may or may not end in deaty.

A lighting strike would fit that description, but I don't recall reading or hearing electrocution used in the various stories when somebody survives.

I usually read or hear 'man struck by lightning...' as the headling, lede, or sound bite, in that case.

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There are also those cases where a drowned person is successfully revived once their body is recovered.

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People who have drowned who arrive at a hospital with spontaneous circulation and breathing usually recover with good outcomes.[54] Early provision of basic and advanced life support improve probability of positive outcome.[50]

Longer duration of submersion is associated with lower probability of survival and higher probability of permanent neurological damage.[54]

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there is a saying about drowning. They aren't dead until they are warm and dead. If it's cold enough, they can be warmed and resuscitated. Brain damage from oxygen starvation is always an issue.

A friend's dad went into the water here in Seattle during the winter. He was a dock worker. They fished him out after about 35 minutes. His core temp was around 80F. They got him warmed up, restarted his heart, and he lived. However, he wasn't "right" ever again, and went on disability. Bouts of anger and fuzzy memory about lots of things.

And getting an electric shock that stops your heart is pretty common. Getting it restarted is also pretty common. Its the ugly electrocutions that char flesh that can cause the real damage.

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....no one dies [ usually ] when drowning ones sorrows......

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You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

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Decapitation is also usually fairly fatal.

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Does "drowned" and "electrocuted" always mean the person dies?

Haven't heard of many cases where someone drowned and was electrocuted, but I think that combination would reduce the chances of survival, unless the electric shock somehow revives one from the drowning.

.....if one dies from supernatural causes....and has a Gilbert Ring......

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.....what about.....'killing me softly....with his song'......???

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That's right up there with listing cause of death on a death certificate as "Failure to Thrive".

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