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F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 28, 2020 10:22PM
posted a few days ago, too lazy to find the original post



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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: May 28, 2020 10:29PM
Are barn doors and French doors the same thing?
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: jdc
Date: May 28, 2020 10:38PM
Labor is prob negotiable... maybe try $2000?

have you priced doors? Prob near $1000.

I dont seed anything about finishing work... making sure the door looks like it belongs.


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 28, 2020 10:41PM
.....should barn doors really be made of glass.....?????


....guess I shouldn't throw stones at glass..........houses.......


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: May 28, 2020 10:43PM
By barn doors, is he talking about the kind that slide to open on rollers above the door? I thought you wanted French doors.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Diana
Date: May 28, 2020 11:29PM
Or is it pocket doors? I would expect either those or French doors. I cannot picture in my mind what is meant by “glass barn door” ... ?
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 28, 2020 11:52PM



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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 29, 2020 05:51AM
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Dennis S
By barn doors, is he talking about the kind that slide to open on rollers above the door? I thought you wanted French doors.

i was wrong, I thought wife wanter French doors, but she now came up with these "barn" doors. or maybe I never paid attention to her wish. Anyway, the cost is reasonable. I thought it will be much more.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: d4
Date: May 29, 2020 06:25AM
Soooo..... how DO YOU feel about this estimate and the barn door style?


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: May 29, 2020 07:34AM
After reading the description, I would have guessed a little higher. I think that's a very reasonable price for everything they are doing.


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: May 29, 2020 08:01AM
If I understand this correctly, the contractor is either enlarging or creating a door opening. They need to build a temporary support structure (shoring) on either side of the wall, cut the opening and install a header (LVL), install the doors and finish the opening.

I expected the materials cost to be significantly higher. Labor seems very reasonable. There's a fair amount of work that needs to be done to make this look nice.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 29, 2020 08:13AM
....girls don't make pass......at guys who wear glass.......door......


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: GGD
Date: May 29, 2020 09:55AM
"HVAC work is not included"

That seems like a potential can of worms. Even if that vent isn't in the area where the opening will be made, the sliding doors might block the vent when they're in the open position depending on which side/room the doors are installed in.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: MikeF
Date: May 29, 2020 09:56AM
Based on the pictures posted on the last thread, I don't think barn doors truly fit the aesthetic of the rooms.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 29, 2020 10:09AM
....no worries......most guys usually leave their....'barn doors' open at some point......


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: May 29, 2020 10:21AM
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Based on the pictures posted on the last thread, I don't think barn doors truly fit the aesthetic of the rooms.

I agree. I think white classic French doors would be what you need. However, I would vote to leave it open. I think you'll get tired of opening and closing the door, as well as cleaning it.



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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: GGD
Date: May 29, 2020 11:36AM
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Based on the pictures posted on the last thread, I don't think barn doors truly fit the aesthetic of the rooms.

I agree. I think white classic French doors would be what you need. However, I would vote to leave it open. I think you'll get tired of opening and closing the door, as well as cleaning it.

And if they're going to be open all the time, then just the archway with no doors might be better.

I really don't like the look of that visible track on the barn doors. Pocket doors look nicer as sliders, but you'd need even more in-wall space for them.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: May 29, 2020 11:59AM
I really agree more and more with what MikeF said. The pictures show rooms that have been perfectly designed by someone, and the barn doors just don't fit (in my opinion.)
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 29, 2020 01:10PM
I agree barn doors don’t fit but that’s what SHE wants!!!
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Diana
Date: May 29, 2020 04:16PM
Given the style and aesthetics of the house and the rooms you have shown in the pictures, the doors you have shown really don’t work well. I find it visually jarring, and they appear out of place. I know, it’s what SHE wants. They appear much more modern than the rest of the rooms, particularly if you stay with the black trim. You show french doors in one of the rooms and I cannot see a way to make the two door styles work. Perhaps a French style barn door? I don’t know if such a thing even exists or if it even should.

French doors are classic; barn doors are trendy; which one is likely to be appealing later down the road, say in 5-10 years?
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: May 29, 2020 04:24PM
Here's the OP with pictures:

[forums.macresource.com]

Did your wife design these rooms? They are beautiful.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: May 29, 2020 04:29PM
.....just don't leave your barn door open......for all to see......


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 29, 2020 06:13PM
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Diana
Given the style and aesthetics of the house and the rooms you have shown in the pictures, the doors you have shown really don’t work well. I find it visually jarring, and they appear out of place. I know, it’s what SHE wants. They appear much more modern than the rest of the rooms, particularly if you stay with the black trim. You show french doors in one of the rooms and I cannot see a way to make the two door styles work. Perhaps a French style barn door? I don’t know if such a thing even exists or if it even should.

French doors are classic; barn doors are trendy; which one is likely to be appealing later down the road, say in 5-10 years?

not sure where you have seen images of the doors. I don't recall posting any images of the doors. The doors shown above are posted by someone else.

What she wants is this

[glass-door.us]

She knows it does not fit the style of the house. She wants a balance between the old style and a modern style. I won't say NO. it's her dream. Let her be.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 29, 2020 06:14PM
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Dennis S
Here's the OP with pictures:

[forums.macresource.com]

Did your wife design these rooms? They are beautiful.

we bought the house. Those were the pictures from previous owners. The house is EMPTY at this moment.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: May 29, 2020 06:18PM
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space-time
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Dennis S
Here's the OP with pictures:

[forums.macresource.com]

Did your wife design these rooms? They are beautiful.

we bought the house. Those were the pictures from previous owners. The house is EMPTY at this moment.

After seeing the door picture you just posted, I'd say it's in good hands.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: jdc
Date: May 29, 2020 07:43PM
she wants these exact doors?




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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: space-time
Date: May 29, 2020 08:07PM
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she wants these exact doors?

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that is the one she showed me, that is the one I linked, that is the one that made you asked. De gustibus non est disputandum.
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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: jdc
Date: May 29, 2020 08:31PM
What I was going to say -- is how tall are the ceilings?

It looks like the hardware might take up 8" -- and the opening might need to be lower than you think to make room for said hardware. And by association, the door height.

Perhaps picking a door first might be prudent to make sure they leave enough room for mounting...

If they built the opening to traditional french door sizes the barn door might not fit.

I would think that part of the goal would be to make them look like they were part of the house, as opposed to not?


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 29, 2020 10:05PM
I apologize for posting a "barn door" in a style that very few people could see was just an example of non-pocket sliding doors, that did not fit into the previous owners taste. It is very easy to change the style and height of the doors, and even hide the sliding mechanism with a wooden valence or soft fabrics.


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Re: F/U to Guesstimate this project
Posted by: d4
Date: May 30, 2020 02:06PM
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What she wants is this
it's her dream. Let her be.

Woah.


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