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Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: PeterB
Date: June 04, 2020 01:03PM
I just discovered on my MP running Mojave that, for some reason, my own user folder (that is to say, my home folder) is hidden/invisible within the Users folder. No idea how or when this happened, and I certainly didn't do it myself.

I'm able to reveal it in the Finder using the option-command-period trick to show all invisible folders, but all attempts to make it visible using the Terminal have seemingly failed... I tried a sudo command, a chflags command, etc. I just can't seem to make this damned folder visible.

Any ideas? TiA




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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: clay
Date: June 04, 2020 02:35PM
try a utility like this (I use this same program on Mojave): [www.macupdate.com]

make invisible files visible, and see if you can see your folder after doing so.
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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: PeterB
Date: June 04, 2020 02:41PM
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clay
try a utility like this (I use this same program on Mojave): [www.macupdate.com]

make invisible files visible, and see if you can see your folder after doing so.

clay -- I may not have been clear from the original post. I can see the folder if I use a Finder command to make all invisible folders visible (I think that is probably what the utility you posted also does). The problem is that the folder obviously shouldn't be invisible to begin with, and all my efforts to convert it from invisible to visible (permanently) have failed.




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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: clay
Date: June 04, 2020 02:51PM
sorry, gotcha. Maybe it's a permissions issue, then?

Have you tried creating a new admin account, logging into that one, and seeing if you can still see your original folder? I don't know. These sorts of issues can be tricky to troubleshoot.
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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: PeterB
Date: June 04, 2020 03:00PM
Actually I'm now accessing the hard drive from another Mac -- either if I'm booted from the drive, or accessing it from another Mac as I'm doing now -- either way, the folder is invisible and seemingly cannot be made permanently visible. Very strange.

There used to be a checkbox for files/folders to individually toggle visibility, I wish that was still there.




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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: modelamac
Date: June 04, 2020 04:02PM
Make it visible and then Get Info on it. Invisible items usually have a period immediately to the left of the file name. If that is your case, rename it without the period and you should be good to go.



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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: testcase
Date: June 04, 2020 04:50PM
It's NOT a bug.......


It's a FEATURE confused smiley
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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: hal
Date: June 04, 2020 05:16PM
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modelamac
Make it visible and then Get Info on it. Invisible items usually have a period immediately to the left of the file name. If that is your case, rename it without the period and you should be good to go.

I agree
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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: PeterB
Date: June 04, 2020 05:50PM
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hal
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modelamac
Make it visible and then Get Info on it. Invisible items usually have a period immediately to the left of the file name. If that is your case, rename it without the period and you should be good to go.

I agree

I'm able to Get Info on it, but it doesn't have a period before it. It's my Home folder, remember, so the name of the folder is simply my username.




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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: comphernation
Date: June 04, 2020 08:05PM
Besides a '.' prepended to a file name, another way to make a file invisible is to set a 'visiblilty' attribute to 'hidden'. Any chance your folder has its hidden 'visibility' flag set?

See this: [discussions.apple.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/04/2020 08:07PM by comphernation.
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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 04, 2020 08:50PM
While booted from your Mojave Mac Pro:

sudo chflags nohidden ~



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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: PeterB
Date: June 05, 2020 11:43PM
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Sarcany
While booted from your Mojave Mac Pro:

sudo chflags nohidden ~

Did not work.




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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 06, 2020 09:15AM
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PeterB
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Sarcany
While booted from your Mojave Mac Pro:

sudo chflags nohidden ~

Did not work.

Sometimes you have to follow it with:

killall Finder



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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: PeterB
Date: June 06, 2020 11:19AM
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Sarcany
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PeterB
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Sarcany
While booted from your Mojave Mac Pro:

sudo chflags nohidden ~

Did not work.

Sometimes you have to follow it with:

killall Finder

Still did not work...




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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: June 06, 2020 11:35AM
You happen to have DiskWarrior?



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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: PeterB
Date: June 06, 2020 01:09PM
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rjmacs
You happen to have DiskWarrior?

I do, but it doesn't work on APFS volumes...




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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: June 06, 2020 01:37PM
That Terminal command is pretty definitive. What you're looking at does not appear to be your Home folder.

Whatever it is, you can make it visible in this fashion...

While viewing invisibles, open the /Users folder and identify that invisible folder.

Drag the window a bit over to the side by its titlebar so that you can see the items in the Users folder in the next step.

Open the Terminal and type "sudo chflags nohidden " and note that there's a space at the end of that text.

Click and drag the invisible folder from the Users folder onto the Terminal window.

The Terminal window should now show the command and the path to that invisible folder folder.

Hit <Return> to execute the command and enter your password when prompted.



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Re: Weird hidden/invisible folder problem
Posted by: PeterB
Date: June 06, 2020 02:33PM
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Sarcany
That Terminal command is pretty definitive. What you're looking at does not appear to be your Home folder.

Whatever it is, you can make it visible in this fashion...

While viewing invisibles, open the /Users folder and identify that invisible folder.

Drag the window a bit over to the side by its titlebar so that you can see the items in the Users folder in the next step.

Open the Terminal and type "sudo chflags nohidden " and note that there's a space at the end of that text.

Click and drag the invisible folder from the Users folder onto the Terminal window.

The Terminal window should now show the command and the path to that invisible folder folder.

Hit <Return> to execute the command and enter your password when prompted.

Had already tried that, it doesn't work (it accepts the command fine, just doesn't make the folder visible). I know it IS the correct home folder because it has all my stuff in it.

What I've done for the time being -- which did work, but is annoying ... make an alias of the invisible folder.




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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2020 02:35PM by PeterB.
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