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Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 10:04AM
I'm removing power lines from the photo below. I've done this a number of times before but this photo is obviously tedious due to the complexity of the houses in it. I've read quite a few tutorials on Google and tried other software but it's pretty much all the same and I still find cloning, while very slow, is the best way to go, with spot healing used in some less complex areas. Is there any tool out there that makes a quicker job of this or a technique that is quicker than cloning?

Original photo:


Edits so far:


TIA



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: November 05, 2020 10:50AM
Patch tool may handle some of those areas



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: Buck
Date: November 05, 2020 10:52AM
Bolt cutters?
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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 11:10AM
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Ombligo
Patch tool may handle some of those areas

Yeah, I’ve used that too. It’s not perfect and I need some cloning when done to get edges to match.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: November 05, 2020 11:21AM
Wish I could help. I've used all the tools in CS6 in different ways - patch, clone...

Over the summer I did a branding project for a non-profit. New logo, new colors, new fonts, style guide, sample PPT templates... when it was all done, I looked back and realized there was one thing that took the most amount of effort: removing the powerlines from the photo of their building.




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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: November 05, 2020 11:28AM
I'd say you're on the right track.

There is a good enough level of effort for stuff like this, so once you have achieved that nobody will realize that power lines were ever there and will have no reason to pick apart each shingle for accuracy.
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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: archipirata
Date: November 05, 2020 11:45AM
The way you are going is exactly how I would go about it. There's just nothing out there (yet) that is going to give quality results on such a complex background. Luckily it looks like there are good clonable adjacent spots for most of the areas you still need to do.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: jdc
Date: November 05, 2020 11:47AM
Agree, on the right track.

One tip I use when retouching -- realize that if you delete something -- no one will ever know it *wasnt* there.

For example -- you could have selected the entire sky, wires and all, and replaced it with a differnt simlar stock sky. No one would have known the difference. But would have saved TONS of time retouching each individual wire. Or things like that little metal rod sticking up from the roof on the left house. You could have just cloned the whole thing out. No one would have noticed.

Assuming you will fix the perspective when done?



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: November 05, 2020 12:03PM
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jdc
Assuming you will fix the perspective when done?

Do you mean make the horizon level?



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: November 05, 2020 12:05PM
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JoeM
I'm removing power lines from the photo below…tedious…Is there any tool out there that makes a quicker job of this or a technique that is quicker than cloning?

Yep, TouchRetouch for iOS:

[apps.apple.com]
[adva-soft.com]

Among other things, it has a specific function for line removal purposes.
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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: btfc
Date: November 05, 2020 12:33PM
Clone stamp tool into new layers. Zoom way in. Play with brush attributes for desired results.
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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: jdc
Date: November 05, 2020 12:35PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
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jdc
Assuming you will fix the perspective when done?

Do you mean make the horizon level?

Well, more than that





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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: Ken Sp.
Date: November 05, 2020 02:03PM
I like SnapHeal
[apps.apple.com]
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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 02:05PM
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jdc
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Filliam H. Muffman
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jdc
Assuming you will fix the perspective when done?

Do you mean make the horizon level?

Well, more than that


Yes, I already corrected some of the keystoning to get started but I will straighten them out further after I remove the lines.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 02:08PM
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Article Accelerator
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JoeM
I'm removing power lines from the photo below…tedious…Is there any tool out there that makes a quicker job of this or a technique that is quicker than cloning?

Yep, TouchRetouch for iOS:

[apps.apple.com]
[adva-soft.com]

Among other things, it has a specific function for line removal purposes.

I was looking at that yesterday, but I'm looking for something for Mac OS on my MP. It looked like it was only for iOS.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 02:15PM
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Ken Sp.
I like SnapHeal
[apps.apple.com]

I tried it but it is pretty much is like other tools I've tried, it can't handle the background and pretty much replaces the lines with a mishmash of surrounding pixel areas.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: A-Polly
Date: November 05, 2020 06:14PM
Looks like you've done most of the work already, and don't have too much more to go! I agree, a mix of tools will be needed. However, the Content-Aware Patch can make super quick work on some areas, such as the siding where there is plenty of pattern to use.

And when you're done, that brand new Sky Replacement function is an awesome way to change the look & feel of your photo without much effort at all. I'm having lots of fun with it. Good luck!
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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: November 05, 2020 07:03PM
Looks like it can all be done with the rubber stamp tool and about 20-25 minutes of work on a new layer.

Sample slightly above and off-center so you don't get distracting patterns/blotches. Do long straight lines by shift-clicking, and have a hand read to jump on Command+Z when you go too quickly and mess up a detail. Skip places where you have intersecting lines and save those for last where you nibble at them with a smaller brush.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: RE:up
Date: November 05, 2020 07:04PM
Question:
Is there a app or patch that will simulate the tilt lens of a view camera when you make the original photo ( this would correct the perspective from the get go that jdc brought up).
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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 07:45PM
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A-Polly
Looks like you've done most of the work already, and don't have too much more to go! I agree, a mix of tools will be needed. However, the Content-Aware Patch can make super quick work on some areas, such as the siding where there is plenty of pattern to use.

And when you're done, that brand new Sky Replacement function is an awesome way to change the look & feel of your photo without much effort at all. I'm having lots of fun with it. Good luck!

I’ve been using the contact aware patch when I have a good chunk I can slide over. It does save some time. I’ll be using the sky replacement too, after I’m done with the lines. I’ve already done a number of other photos and because the sky that day was literally white fir a good part of the day, I’ve been using sky replacement, either Photoshop’s or Luminar’s depending on which looks better. I think Photoshop’s does a better job most of the time and the ability to put the sky on different layers is very convenient.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 07:46PM
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Sarcany
Looks like it can all be done with the rubber stamp tool and about 20-25 minutes of work on a new layer.

Sample slightly above and off-center so you don't get distracting patterns/blotches. Do long straight lines by shift-clicking, and have a hand read to jump on Command+Z when you go too quickly and mess up a detail. Skip places where you have intersecting lines and save those for last where you nibble at them with a smaller brush.

Thanks, that’s exactly what I’m doing for most of it.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 07:57PM
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RE:up
Question:
Is there a app or patch that will simulate the tilt lens of a view camera when you make the original photo ( this would correct the perspective from the get go that jdc brought up).

Yes, camera raw and Lightroom has a geometry section that allows a number of correction to the horizontal and vertical planes. You tend to lose some of the image to clipping so it sometimes isn’t desired. I do a lot of keystone correction manually using the Transform - Distort tool along with compositing different sections.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: November 05, 2020 09:15PM
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Ken Sp.
I like SnapHeal
[apps.apple.com]

Maybe you're better with SnapHeal than I am...but I just did a quick test on those powerlines and the results were awful. I've never really liked any results from SnapHeal though. I would rather spend the time in Pixelmator (since I dont have Photoshop).

I think your'e doing well JoeM...keep going!



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 05, 2020 09:58PM
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Markintosh
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Ken Sp.
I like SnapHeal
[apps.apple.com]

Maybe you're better with SnapHeal than I am...but I just did a quick test on those powerlines and the results were awful. I've never really liked any results from SnapHeal though. I would rather spend the time in Pixelmator (since I dont have Photoshop).

I think your'e doing well JoeM...keep going!

Thanks Markintosh, I will. Slow and steady get the job done!



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: lost in space
Date: November 05, 2020 10:40PM
Just an aside, but I think the image would be stronger if you were to crop out the building on the right edge that's about the same color as the house on the right. Just sayin'.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: November 06, 2020 12:00AM
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JoeM
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JoeM
I'm removing power lines from the photo below…tedious…Is there any tool out there that makes a quicker job of this or a technique that is quicker than cloning?

Yep, TouchRetouch for iOS:

[apps.apple.com]
[adva-soft.com]

Among other things, it has a specific function for line removal purposes.

I was looking at that yesterday, but I'm looking for something for Mac OS on my MP. It looked like it was only for iOS.

It is, but I think the round-trip may be worth the trouble.
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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 06, 2020 08:09AM
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lost in space
Just an aside, but I think the image would be stronger if you were to crop out the building on the right edge that's about the same color as the house on the right. Just sayin'.

Yes, I figured I would be cropping the right side when I took the shot. Not sure if I can composite anything else there, probably not, but I’ll look through other photos. Besides the lines, cars parked in front are always a possible problem when trying to photograph these old homes. That section is very busy with trucks and cars since it butts against the back of the Washington St. Mall.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 06, 2020 08:11AM
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JoeM
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JoeM
I'm removing power lines from the photo below…tedious…Is there any tool out there that makes a quicker job of this or a technique that is quicker than cloning?

Yep, TouchRetouch for iOS:

[apps.apple.com]
[adva-soft.com]

Among other things, it has a specific function for line removal purposes.

I was looking at that yesterday, but I'm looking for something for Mac OS on my MP. It looked like it was only for iOS.

It is, but I think the round-trip may be worth the trouble.
I’m going to take your advice and give it a shot. I can try with a jpg. I’ll post the results so we can all see how well it does.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 06, 2020 09:11AM
Well, I gave TouchRetouch a try and the results were pretty much the same as other apps I've tried. I used my Apple pencil and made several attempts using different line sizes but the results were all the same. Here's the last attempt:





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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: vision63
Date: November 06, 2020 11:13AM
I'd just take pains and slowly use the clone tool. Those are two pretty ladies.



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Re: Photoshop pros: any quick way to remove power lines on complex background?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: November 06, 2020 03:09PM
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vision63
I'd just take pains and slowly use the clone tool. Those are two pretty ladies.

That’s my plan at this point. I was just curious to see if anything new was available with all this new AI technology in photo editors. Same for deblurring AI. I’m a mediocre photographer, at best, and have been patiently waiting for Adobe to put out the deblurring tool they showcased a few years ago.



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