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CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: November 09, 2020 09:50AM
(I'll believe the better battery life when I see it)


Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them

As the insides of computers become more like iPhones, we can expect better battery life, thinner designs and even, maybe, a lower price tag.


[www.cnet.com]



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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: November 09, 2020 10:07AM
"thinner designs" translates to wireless charging, kiss all the ports goodbye.



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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: November 09, 2020 10:10AM
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Ombligo
...kiss all the ports goodbye.

edit: let's hope not.



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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: November 09, 2020 10:11AM
I can easily believe that there's a 30% or more bump in battery-life coming.

Not from improved batteries, but due to the many cores they need on the ARM chips to bring them up to speed with Intel in the benchmarks.

In order to keep the ARM chips from burning up, Apple's going to have to aggressively disable some cores or throttle when they don't need all that computing power. This will also make for greater battery-efficiency.



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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: November 09, 2020 10:14AM
Some kind of convergence is coming. We can see the evolution in the iPad Pro line.



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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: November 09, 2020 10:19AM
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pRICE cUBE
Some kind of convergence is coming. We can see the evolution in the iPad Pro line.

Yep.

Also, see the thread about the Bombich blog-post and email re: Big Sur.

System updates and resetting a Mac to the base-OS will soon be on par between iOS and macOS devices.

...And the Big Sur GUI is styled after the iPad.



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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: testcase
Date: November 09, 2020 10:59AM
I just don't understand the fascination with the "need" for electronics to be ULTRA thin. I find "thin" much harder to hold onto comfortably and, as mentioned, thin = smaller batteries and few to no ports.

Apple's Pismo was a wonder of usefulness and utility. Their 17" unibody MacBook Pro was a close second.

The iPhone 11 ProMax and Samsung's Galaxy Note 10+ 5G are just about as big as phones can be where they will fit in the pockets of the fishing shirts I always wear AND, still be able to seal the Velcro pocket flap so said phoned DON'T fall out when I bend over. old fogey smiley
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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: tuqqer
Date: November 09, 2020 11:18AM
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testcase
I just don't understand the fascination with the "need" for electronics to be ULTRA thin.

I'm in this camp, too, and for iPhones, as well. I'd much rather true 1-2 day day battery life than thin.



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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 09, 2020 11:59AM
I predict double battery life on the Apple Silicon MBA for equivalent speed Intel version.
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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: November 09, 2020 12:01PM
How long until the iPad folds two or three times to fit in a pocket (or unrolls), and does all HPC in the cloud....



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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: November 09, 2020 12:22PM
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testcase
I just don't understand the fascination with the "need" for electronics to be ULTRA thin. I find "thin" much harder to hold onto comfortably and, as mentioned, thin = smaller batteries and few to no ports.

There are notable benefits. I have a bevy of roughly 10 year old Mac laptops and the 2011 11.6" MBAir is simply nicer to physically manage and use than the 2009 13" MBPro. Yes, the MBA has a better processor but the MBP has 8GB to the MBA's 4, so I use the MBPro more thanks to necessity.

However the MBAir is simply much nicer to use as was my Mom's 2016 12" MacBook 8GB when I used it for about 3 months. Now that was really nice to use.
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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: mikebw
Date: November 09, 2020 03:17PM
I believe it's not so much about the thickness but rather the weight that is important for a portable device. The two factors generally have a linear relationship, and at this point since things are all pretty much USB-C I don't see devices getting significantly thinner.


Improved battery life will be a large selling point IMO.
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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: davemchine
Date: November 09, 2020 03:17PM
I had predicted the demise of OSX within 10 years. I now think it could be significantly sooner.
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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 09, 2020 08:18PM
Improved battery life will be a large selling point IMO.


I agree, assuming we actually get significantly improved battery life.

So may hardware and software improvements that result in less current drain seemed to be accompanied but smaller batteries to fit in smaller, thinner devices.

And that usually means 'the same XXXXhrs battery life' and not significantly improve battery life that we can use.

With the new slab side iPads and 'Phones, cram more battery in there.

I won't mind a bit.




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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 09, 2020 10:15PM
Rumor is they will be able to run ANY iOS app in the app store (though developers can opt out).

If so, tomorrow could be very expensive day for me - that would need a touchscreen.
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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: fauch
Date: November 10, 2020 12:37PM
But it will still be DOOMED!!!
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Re: CNET: Apple's new Macs could change computers as we know them
Posted by: mrlynn
Date: November 10, 2020 07:44PM
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mikebw
I believe it's not so much about the thickness but rather the weight that is important for a portable device. The two factors generally have a linear relationship, and at this point since things are all pretty much USB-C I don't see devices getting significantly thinner.


Improved battery life will be a large selling point IMO.

I agree about the weight. My 2015 11.6" MBA is only 2 lbs. The current 13"s are 2.8 lbs, only 0.2 lbs less than the 13" MBPs. The little 11.6" is great for traveling; as easy to carry as a tablet, but it's a real computer.

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