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Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Mrs. M A V I C
Date: November 22, 2020 10:24AM
Hey all!

MAVIC and I are shopping for a new microwave, hopefully to find a Black Friday deal. Ours is ancient and doesn't even have a spinning tray. I need to dive into reviews and see what deals are out there.

I'd love to hear what features you love on your microwave that you can't live without.

Hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving!
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: jdc
Date: November 22, 2020 10:38AM
Counter top? built in? Do you need to have it match with other appliances/brand?

Most come from the same factory these days, and the actual tech hasn't changed in years. You do want to try and find something with a true steam sensor. They all seem to last about the same... so might not want to get too hung up on reviews.

I like the reviews at wirecutter, they seem to be thorough.

[www.nytimes.com]

However, their top pick is only $150. My last 2 have been double the $.

AJmadison's web site is really detailed -- you can filter by rating, price, brand, size, color, etc, etc to narrow down your choices.

[www.ajmadison.com]



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: November 22, 2020 10:39AM
Size & Wattage desired would be helpful.
My LG (Kenmore badged) LCSP1110ST w/ pizza oven has worked perfectly for the
past Eight Years! 1.1cf/1100w, all digital. [www.amazon.com]
(and yes it was made in China!)

Edit:
That Panny Genius Inverter 1200 (Stainless Steel NN-SN67HS) in jdc's Wirecutter
review looks very nice. It's currently only $120 @ Target. [www.target.com]



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 22, 2020 10:52AM
In our experience, older microwaves are better built than newer. If the lack of a rotating tray is a concern, maybe getting one that can be added?

In addition to the other questions, we find we use the following presets the most:

1) cooking frozen vegetables

2) popcorn

3) auto defrost due to weight

I think this is all pretty standard these days.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: pdq
Date: November 22, 2020 10:57AM
We have one that we picked because it fit our kitchen, in style (black and silver) and in compactness (it sits in a corner and is round in back).

It sucks as a microwave, though. Simple to operate (good) but slow as a dog. When reheating soup, somehow the bowl gets much hotter than the soup. huh smiley
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Mrs. M A V I C
Date: November 22, 2020 11:00AM
We don't need it to match other appliances so we're open to whatever brand it good.

It's a wall mounted microwave over our stove.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 22, 2020 11:05AM
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Mrs. M A V I C
We don't need it to match other appliances so we're open to whatever brand it good.

It's a wall mounted microwave over our stove.

One other consideration is to map how much power you have to the current microwave. Newer units can use quite a bit more power. In my older house, this meant being careful not to blow a breaker when using a newer microwave; this was not an issue with an older model that broke.

In our 15 year old home, there are occasional power issues on the circuit when using the over-the-stove microwave on full power and the exhaust fan at the same time. This should not be an issue, but peak power use on these newer microwaves is quite high.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: November 22, 2020 11:14AM
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pdq
When reheating soup, somehow the bowl gets much hotter than the soup.
That's normal for food heated in china/ceramic dishes. If you ever dine in
a restaurant and receive a plate/bowl that's extremely hot compared to the food,
send it back! It hasn't been "cooked by a chef" it's been nuked.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: sekker
Date: November 22, 2020 11:17AM
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MrNoBody
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pdq
When reheating soup, somehow the bowl gets much hotter than the soup.
That's normal for food heated in china/ceramic dishes. If you ever dine in
a restaurant and receive a plate/bowl that's extremely hot compared to the food,
send it back! It hasn't been "cooked by a chef" it's been nuked.

What is this 'dine in a restaurant' experience you are talking about?
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Buzz
Date: November 22, 2020 11:40AM
Panasonic.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: November 22, 2020 11:54AM
We got rid of the exhaust/microwave combo, put in a range hood, and then got a countertop microwave - the overall cost was less and it is far more convenient.

As for features - steam sensor if possible, turntable, and shortcut buttons that work for you (we use potato, popcorn, +30 seconds)



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: JoeH
Date: November 22, 2020 11:57AM
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MrNoBody
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(and yes it was made in China!)

Made in China is not necessarily a bad thing, for instance most of Apple's products are made there. More important is the company/brand the products are being made for. A good company/brand will have established quality and design standards to be met, and enforce them. The Chinese factories will make the product as good as they are required to, if a company orders poor quality construction, that is what they will be provided.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: November 22, 2020 12:09PM
I've always liked Panasonics for microwaves.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: space-time
Date: November 22, 2020 12:23PM
you want this one, trust me

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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: deckeda
Date: November 22, 2020 12:29PM
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you want this one, trust me

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Yeah seems like new ones are all a joke since that one was made.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: November 22, 2020 12:41PM
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pdq
When reheating soup, somehow the bowl gets much hotter than the soup.
That's normal for food heated in china/ceramic dishes. If you ever dine in
a restaurant and receive a plate/bowl that's extremely hot compared to the food,
send it back! It hasn't been "cooked by a chef" it's been nuked.

Or more likely the plate came out of the dishwasher. Commercial dishwashers are crazy hot.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: November 22, 2020 12:46PM
My only contribution to this thread would be to avoid GE
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: d4
Date: November 22, 2020 12:46PM
For me:
Needs to fit a full size dinner plate.
Needs to fit a fully popped bag of popcorn.
Auto weight defrost is handy to have.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: August West
Date: November 22, 2020 01:00PM
Small point, I replaced a microwave not to long ago, and I didn't notice at the time, but I went from white with black print to a glossy black with smaller print. The new one is much harder to read, and I have to consider that in where I place it in the kitchen, because reflective light and glare cause problems.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: JoeH
Date: November 22, 2020 01:20PM
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My only contribution to this thread would be to avoid GE

GE does not make appliances anymore. As of January 2016 the appliance division and branding was sold to Haier.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: CJsNvrUrly
Date: November 22, 2020 02:31PM
Another vote for Panasonic here. I love the Sensor Reheat button and the Inverter Turbo Defrost function is a snap to use.




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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: November 22, 2020 03:18PM
Panasonic with inverter technology for the win.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: November 22, 2020 03:22PM
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C(-)ris
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MrNoBody
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pdq
When reheating soup, somehow the bowl gets much hotter than the soup.
That's normal for food heated in china/ceramic dishes. If you ever dine in
a restaurant and receive a plate/bowl that's extremely hot compared to the food,
send it back! It hasn't been "cooked by a chef" it's been nuked.
Or more likely the plate came out of the dishwasher. Commercial dishwashers are crazy hot.
Sorry but no, that's not how it happens.
Low temp machines use a chemical sanitizer & run @ 120-140F; high temp units
use a heated rinse of 165-180F per FDA requirements.
Final phase of dish-washing is air dry after sanitizing as all plates/bowls have to
be dry before they're stacked. Worked as a contract food service certified inspector
at Marriott for three years, it's industry SOP.
btw, two minutes in a commercial micro can heat a plate to 200F or more.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: November 22, 2020 03:30PM
My Panasonic has inverter technology but I don't even know what t is.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: jdc
Date: November 22, 2020 03:30PM
Chef Microwave Mike



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: November 22, 2020 03:39PM
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Dennis S
My Panasonic has inverter technology but I don't even know what t is.

A general and unscientific explanation:

You know how, in a regular microwave, if you set your slices of cheese to melt for 20 seconds at 50% power, they'll blister and boil for 10 seconds followed by 10 seconds of nothing? That's because "50% power" is actually 100% power for 50% of the time.

Now: Put your cheese slices in the Panasonic microwave with "inverter technology" at 50% power. Notice how they slowly melt over that 20 seconds? That's because 50% power is actually 50% power.

Actually, my cheese does better at 30% or 40% than 50% power, but math was easier at 50%
If anyone wants to talk about PCM or PWM or whatever, go ahead.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Frank
Date: November 22, 2020 03:53PM
For me, a built-in with a door that opens down rather than to the side was important. The Sharp that I installed 24 years ago still works perfectly.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: mattkime
Date: November 22, 2020 04:54PM
I'm happy with my Panasonic. Seems better constructed than most microwaves.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: November 22, 2020 05:01PM
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S. Pupp
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Dennis S
My Panasonic has inverter technology but I don't even know what t is.

A general and unscientific explanation:

You know how, in a regular microwave, if you set your slices of cheese to melt for 20 seconds at 50% power, they'll blister and boil for 10 seconds followed by 10 seconds of nothing? That's because "50% power" is actually 100% power for 50% of the time.

Now: Put your cheese slices in the Panasonic microwave with "inverter technology" at 50% power. Notice how they slowly melt over that 20 seconds? That's because 50% power is actually 50% power.

Actually, my cheese does better at 30% or 40% than 50% power, but math was easier at 50%
If anyone wants to talk about PCM or PWM or whatever, go ahead.

Oh, OK. Thanks. I only use diminished power when defrosting. I'll see if I can think of things to utilize this on. Melting butter might be one.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Mrs. M A V I C
Date: November 22, 2020 05:36PM
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S. Pupp
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Dennis S
My Panasonic has inverter technology but I don't even know what t is.

A general and unscientific explanation:

You know how, in a regular microwave, if you set your slices of cheese to melt for 20 seconds at 50% power, they'll blister and boil for 10 seconds followed by 10 seconds of nothing? That's because "50% power" is actually 100% power for 50% of the time.

Now: Put your cheese slices in the Panasonic microwave with "inverter technology" at 50% power. Notice how they slowly melt over that 20 seconds? That's because 50% power is actually 50% power.

Actually, my cheese does better at 30% or 40% than 50% power, but math was easier at 50%
If anyone wants to talk about PCM or PWM or whatever, go ahead.

Thanks for explaining that. I keep seeing "inverter technology" and wondered what it was.
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Microwave recommendations?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 22, 2020 05:43PM
I'm still looking for a good:

counter top microwave
1KW or better
turntable (no, not that kind)
1cu.ft

I don't expect it to last a long time.

They don't make them like they used to.

If a countertop microwave was made like my dear departed Litton, it would out last me.





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Re: Microwave recommendations?
Posted by: Mrs. M A V I C
Date: November 22, 2020 07:17PM
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RAMd®d
I'm still looking for a good:

counter top microwave
1KW or better
turntable (no, not that kind)
1cu.ft

I don't expect it to last a long time.

They don't make them like they used to.

If a countertop microwave was made like my dear departed Litton, it would out last me.

I hear ya. Our microwave is from 1994. It was a beast. Now all I hear about are appliances dying after 2 years.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: Fred_Also
Date: November 22, 2020 07:59PM
One thing I miss on the last one we bought was a lighted keypad. I never thought about it till I got it home and went to use it at night, in dim light. I have to turn on the overhead to punch in the time.

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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: space-time
Date: November 22, 2020 08:33PM
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For me, a built-in with a door that opens down rather than to the side was important. ...

I have never seen one like that.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: AllGold
Date: November 22, 2020 08:54PM
I'm still using my Amana Radarange, purchased sometime in the mid to late 1980s.



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: pdq
Date: November 23, 2020 08:46AM
We still have our Amana, all chrome bumpers and turn-to-set-timer. We got ours in the early 80’s. It is a beast.

The only problem is, it is a beast. Huge, and with the all the chrome looks like a Chevy from the 50’s. It’s downstairs now, and still works when we ask it to, which isn’t often.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: November 23, 2020 09:18AM
"80's Amana Radarange" Wow, wonder how many amps those beasts draw.
Must be like firing up an old LaserWriter emoticon-tv-015

I kept wondering what folks meant by "steam sensor" until I read up on that
Panny Genius Inverter. Uses heat and humidity sensors when you use the
programmed food settings to control power and time of cooking.
Pretty dam cool!



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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: JoeH
Date: November 23, 2020 01:16PM
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We still have our Amana, all chrome bumpers and turn-to-set-timer. We got ours in the early 80’s. It is a beast.

The only problem is, it is a beast. Huge, and with the all the chrome looks like a Chevy from the 50’s. It’s downstairs now, and still works when we ask it to, which isn’t often.

Yes, they are big. Just recycled one about a year ago. It was my mothers and had been in storage for a while. Mice had got into the storage unit, and did not want to risk problems. It made a satisfying bang when my son and I dropped it the 8 feet into the bin for recycling metal at the local landfill.
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Re: Microwave recommendations
Posted by: AllGold
Date: November 23, 2020 05:52PM
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pdq
We still have our Amana, all chrome bumpers and turn-to-set-timer. We got ours in the early 80’s. It is a beast.

The only problem is, it is a beast. Huge, and with the all the chrome looks like a Chevy from the 50’s. It’s downstairs now, and still works when we ask it to, which isn’t often.

Mine is a later model. Digital and no chrome, but it's still a beast.



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