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HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: December 29, 2020 05:10PM
Every so often, I'll hear a FM station promoting they're 'also on HD2...".
Any MRF members HD Radio adopters, opinions?
I'm not a luddite but don't see the need for it considering streaming, etc.

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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: December 29, 2020 05:42PM
It's a solution looking for a problem.
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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: December 29, 2020 05:58PM
With respect to FM, HD does NOT refer to High Definition. It is Hybrid Digital, where they typically compress the signal to an inch of it's life to fit a second channel in the same frequency bandwidth with more commercials.



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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: December 29, 2020 06:52PM
nonsense



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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: rz
Date: December 29, 2020 07:46PM
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freeradical
It's a solution looking for a problem.

Yup.
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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: December 29, 2020 08:04PM
Works nicely with NPR when I can jump to a different show when they go to the local politics hour for a nearby state.

Less nice when they inexplicably play country music on NPR2.



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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: December 29, 2020 08:14PM
It harms the analog signal to make room for a poor digital one within the same space, while letting you think "HD" = high definition. Even their claim of "CD sound" is a lie, but that's how lossy digital is marketed.
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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: testcase
Date: December 29, 2020 09:59PM
HD radio = BS.
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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: December 29, 2020 11:10PM
The only applicable use would be to broadcast in actual Quadrophonic sound..... another flash in the pan idea.
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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: December 29, 2020 11:27PM
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cbelt3
The only applicable use would be to broadcast in actual Quadrophonic sound..... another flash in the pan idea.

Hey!

I had a Quadrophonic 8-track and the corresponding "Dark Side of the Moon" tape!

If I had enough speakers, I'm certain it would have sounded awesome!



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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: December 30, 2020 08:28AM
IMO, it's biggest benefit is for the stations themselves. The ability to have multiple streams that can hopefully retain listeners and stabilize or boost ad revenue is the benefit. Radio stations are struggling to survive and this may be their last hope.

That being said, I pretty much only listen to broadcast radio as a last resort.
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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: Bixby
Date: December 30, 2020 08:48AM
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freeradical
It's a solution looking for a problem.

I work in the industry, for stations that broadcast in HD, and I agree with this assessment.
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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: December 30, 2020 08:50AM
there is so much compression in the radio signal already ...

we had a quad control room in one of the studios in Manhattan I worked in..... for perhaps a year. Stoopit idea.

I did however see ELP in quad at the Nassau for BSS.
It was pretty cool, but mostly tricks of the pan, not for definition of sound. And back then, it was f'n loud and sloppy.

More than 2.1 for any listening environment of media, other than a big deal Hollywoo film (Private Benji), is just nonsense to my ear, no matter what Netflix delivery spec is.

I heard the JBL/Atmos demo at AES a few years back. Impressive, but better in a bigger room. I'm tired of having my junk being blown into my thorax for the sake of a Ferrari or jet drive by.

consumer electronics industry propaganda.



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Re: HD Radio: Useful or just another 'flash in the pan' technology?
Posted by: ADent
Date: December 30, 2020 06:20PM
Makes AM sounds much better.

FM HD is OK - one of the stations runs its 'studio' recordings, basically w/o commercials.

Many others are now simulcasting an AM station.
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