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I need a new 65" TV. (couch is 17 get away)
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 01, 2021 06:11PM
I am thinking OLED, and I think LG. Convince me why I would want another brand: Samsung does not make me feel confident with their bad caps a few years ago, Sony let me down many years ago, Vizio sucks for high end TVs, and Panasonic threw in the towel many years ago. So what's left?

I am thinking Costco and I pay with Costco City to get some extended warranty. there are supposed to be some sales before Super Bowl, right?



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: graylocks
Date: January 01, 2021 06:19PM
my son recently got an LG CX 65” from Costco. kinda pricey if you ask me but i have to admit it’s a really nice picture.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 01, 2021 06:25PM
I need a new 65" TV

No one needs a 65" TV
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: jdc
Date: January 01, 2021 06:38PM
Budget?





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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 01, 2021 07:07PM
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jdc
Budget?

N/L



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: January 01, 2021 07:07PM




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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 01, 2021 07:08PM
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RgrF
I need a new 65" TV

No one needs a 65" TV

Sure, no one needs any TV. All you need is food, water and shelter.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Fritz
Date: January 01, 2021 07:30PM
someone here rec'd TCL (S4 55") to me a couple years back.
Very happy with and it was less expensive than other "name" brands.
After experience I've had with other Samsung, LG and Sony products, I'd avoid all 3.
Sony gets $ because of their pro side.
LG and Samsung make appliances, poorly (not that TCL doesn't make appliances ....)
But then a TV cam friend of mine just bought LG. Though I think he bought it coz the box fit in the car.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: January 01, 2021 07:31PM
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: January 01, 2021 08:00PM
there are supposed to be some sales before Super Bowl, right?

Alledgedly, the best prices are the week after Super Bowl.
My brand choice would be either LG or Sony.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 01, 2021 08:40PM
LG, Sony and now Vizio use the same LG-made OLED panels.

If you can wait even 6 months, rumor has that miniLED TVs are going to hit the market in 2021 and push OLEDs in image quality, especially for blacks.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 01, 2021 09:28PM
If you NEED a 65" set, then you really WANT a 75" set.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 01, 2021 09:29PM
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sekker
LG, Sony and now Vizio use the same LG-made OLED panels.

If you can wait even 6 months, rumor has that miniLED TVs are going to hit the market in 2021 and push OLEDs in image quality, especially for blacks.

interesting. Need to look into this. Thanks.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 01, 2021 09:30PM
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Ombligo
If you NEED a 65" set, then you really WANT a 75" set.

does not fit above fireplace.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 01, 2021 09:31PM
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Fritz
someone here rec'd TCL (S4 55") to me a couple years back.
Very happy with and it was less expensive than other "name" brands.
After experience I've had with other Samsung, LG and Sony products, I'd avoid all 3.
Sony gets $ because of their pro side.
LG and Samsung make appliances, poorly (not that TCL doesn't make appliances ....)
But then a TV cam friend of mine just bought LG. Though I think he bought it coz the box fit in the car.
YMMD.

I want a nice TV. TCL is a good choice for performance per $, but that is not my main goal. I want a reliable, and good picture TV. Also forgot to mention, but I do not want a glossy screen. I want a matte if possible.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: davester
Date: January 01, 2021 10:06PM
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space-time
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Ombligo
If you NEED a 65" set, then you really WANT a 75" set.

does not fit above fireplace.

Noooo!! Above the fireplace is a horrible location for a TV. Neck strain time! TVs should be mounted low, so that the center of the screen is roughly at head height when seated (around 42"). In the fireplace would be much better than above it.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 01, 2021 10:07PM
We sit far enough that thus should not be a problem
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: January 01, 2021 10:36PM
.....have you tried mounting....from behind.....???



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Spiff
Date: January 01, 2021 11:32PM
Got a 65inch LG OLED tv 4 years ago. Have gotten a Vizio and Insignia since for other rooms. Both are far inferior to the OLED. Go with LG.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 01, 2021 11:45PM
More info on next gen screens.

[www.theverge.com]
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Rolando
Date: January 02, 2021 01:40AM
Wirecutter on OLED TVs
[www.nytimes.com]



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 02, 2021 04:58AM
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sekker
LG, Sony and now Vizio use the same LG-made OLED panels.

If you can wait even 6 months, rumor has that miniLED TVs are going to hit the market in 2021 and push OLEDs in image quality, especially for blacks.

LG is the way to go for OLED TVs. Yes, Sony and Vizio use LG-manufactured panels, but a Sony OLED usually cost about twice as much as an LG OLED of the same size.

Vizio OLEDs are new to market, so I can not speak to whether they are a smart purchase.

It will be interesting to see what microLED TVs (not miniLED) are capable of, but I personally don't believe they are going to achieve image quality equal to OLED, at least not for the first few years.

Personally speaking, every time I watch my LG OLED I am glad I bought it - and my previous TV was a Panny plasma, itself no slouch in the image quality department. When I say "every time", I mean every time - no exaggeration. It's that good.


EDIT: I see that the TV discussed at the link seeker provided does indeed refer to miniLED... which is weird, because everything I've read about the new LED technology refers to it as microLED:

[www.cnet.com]
[en.wikipedia.org]

To me, that right there is good enough reason to proceed with caution if considering the new technology - among other things, the consumer must now reconcile whether miniLED and microLED are the same technology and, if not, determine how they differ. Exactly what the TV market needs - even more confusion about competing technologies.


EDIT #2: Ah, the picture becomes clearer. From the final paragraph of sekker's article:

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Last, don’t make the mistake of mixing up Mini LED with MicroLED. Think of Mini LED as another evolution of LCD TVs, whereas MicroLED is a more radical upgrade that removes the backlight from the equation altogether (just like OLED) and combines millions of self-emissive LEDs that only light up when they’re needed. MicroLED TVs are still outrageously expensive, and while we won’t know pricing for LG’s QNED TVs for a few more months, it should be much less eye-popping.

MicroLED is the technology expected to challenge OLED, not MiniLED. The latter technology should provide LED TVs with the ability to get closer to being able to display true black, but it will not match OLED's ability to do so. In other words, MiniLED is simply another marketing ploy, similar to Samsung's QLED. I recommend sticking with OLED.



It is what it is.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 02, 2021 07:40AM
MiniLEDs look to have blacks that compete with OLED and have no panel burnin issues.

As I noted, they are coming to market this year.

MicroLEDs are far too expensive a tech at this this time for TVs.

Personally, I miss my plasma screens. Too bad the Panny developed a motherboard failure. The screen was still spectacular after 7 years of constant use. Even though it was ‘only’ 1080P, I still think it was better than my 4K quantum dot LED 4K screen even with 4K HDR content.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: January 02, 2021 09:39AM
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davester
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space-time
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Ombligo
If you NEED a 65" set, then you really WANT a 75" set.

does not fit above fireplace.

Noooo!! Above the fireplace is a horrible location for a TV. Neck strain time! TVs should be mounted low, so that the center of the screen is roughly at head height when seated (around 42"). In the fireplace would be much better than above it.

I was also going to respond similarly. I believe it's also responsible for early tv death from additional heat.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 02, 2021 10:51AM
If your wall above your gas fireplace is hot, there’s something to work on. There should be good insulation - and likely a fan - moving the heat to the room, not to the ceiling. Our mantle never gets hot to the touch, and it’s on all the time in MN winters.

I know the complaints about TVs above the fireplace, but we love ours there. It’s the only decent spot in our open living room. The only other place is in a corner that faces windows, making screen glare terrible unless we close the shades.

By being that high, it’s visible from arguably three ‘rooms’ - kitchen, an office and the living area. If it were lower, we’d have to have invisible furniture.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: iaJim
Date: January 02, 2021 11:23AM
I love my LG OLED 55" tv. The picture is amazing. The youtube video reviews said that Sony drove the same panel with some extra magic for a little different picture, but I have not seen the Sony, and can't imagine how much better a tv could be than the LG. Buy the LG. You will love it.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 02, 2021 11:47AM
MicroLED TVs are still outrageously expensive, and while we won’t know pricing for LG’s QNED TVs for a few more months, it should be much less eye-popping.

'Much less eye-popping' is still eye-popping territory, and I'd expect that it will be someone with rarified disposable spending to say 'Ok, now we're talking!'.

Mounting a TV above an active, oft used fireplace would seem to be a bad idea.

Insulating it from heat might help, however that might be done.

A friend mounted his LCD TV above a dormant fireplace that will stay that way, so no heat worries.

The couch for main viewing is a little close as far as the neck angle is concerned, but one can slouch on the couch and get good neck and head support from the back of it, so each situation may yield a different result.

I think mini-LED may as much an incremental improvement in LCD TV if not more than just a marketing gimmick.

Clearly it's to help LCD compete with/against OLED, so pricing will be key.

If it's priced too close to OLED sets, one may as well spend a little more for OLED, especially since it's established tech, 'long term', compared to mini-LED.

If I got a big screen, it would be OLED.



My favorite comment in the whole thread:

If you NEED a 65" set, then you really WANT a 75" set..





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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: JoeM
Date: January 02, 2021 12:12PM
So is the consensus to stay away from Samsung now? My whole system is Samsung and my 10yr old 55” Samsung TV still looks great but I imagine I’ll need to replace it in the coming years. BTW, just got the TCL 32S327 32-Inch 1080p ROKU Smart LED TV (2018 Model) that was an Amazon special for $129.99 for our bedroom. Really happy with it.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: sunfalcon
Date: January 02, 2021 12:44PM
We've had a TCL Series 6 for two years now and it has been excellent.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: vision63
Date: January 02, 2021 04:05PM
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JoeM
So is the consensus to stay away from Samsung now? My whole system is Samsung and my 10yr old 55” Samsung TV still looks great but I imagine I’ll need to replace it in the coming years. BTW, just got the TCL 32S327 32-Inch 1080p ROKU Smart LED TV (2018 Model) that was an Amazon special for $129.99 for our bedroom. Really happy with it.

I'm sure they're fine.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Mactel
Date: January 02, 2021 04:15PM
Rtings seems to be a well respected site for TV reviews.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 02, 2021 04:21PM
I don't really have a better place to install the TV in this Family Room. I'll discuss with better half about mounting it on a different wall but I expect a strong NO.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 02, 2021 04:21PM
we never used the fireplace since we bought the house. I plan to convert it to natural gas sometime in 2021 and then yes, we hope to use it next winter.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Bo
Date: January 02, 2021 05:47PM
Pull down mantel mounts:
[www.mantelmount.com]
[homesthetics.net]
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 02, 2021 05:58PM
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sekker
Personally, I miss my plasma screens. Too bad the Panny developed a motherboard failure. The screen was still spectacular after 7 years of constant use. Even though it was ‘only’ 1080P, I still think it was better than my 4K quantum dot LED 4K screen even with 4K HDR content.

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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 02, 2021 06:03PM
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vision63
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JoeM
So is the consensus to stay away from Samsung now? My whole system is Samsung and my 10yr old 55” Samsung TV still looks great but I imagine I’ll need to replace it in the coming years. BTW, just got the TCL 32S327 32-Inch 1080p ROKU Smart LED TV (2018 Model) that was an Amazon special for $129.99 for our bedroom. Really happy with it.

I'm sure they're fine.

Samsung makes fine TVs (although the lifespan of some of their plasma models was less than ideal...), but they engage in what are essentially snake oil marketing practices for their flagship technologies. Check out comparisons of their QLED technology vs. actual OLED technology to see what I'm referring to.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 02, 2021 06:05PM
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space-time
I don't really have a better place to install the TV in this Family Room. I'll discuss with better half about mounting it on a different wall but I expect a strong NO.

Dude, you do you. Just know that the two primary objections to mounting a TV above a fireplace are:

1. Early death due to rising heat from the fireplace.
2. Uncomfortable viewing angle due to TV height.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 02, 2021 07:01PM
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Bo
Pull down mantel mounts:
[www.mantelmount.com]
[homesthetics.net]

That seems like a nice solution!
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 02, 2021 07:07PM
Also the couch is 17 feet away from TV
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Re: I need a new 65" TV. (couch is 17 get away)
Posted by: srf1957
Date: January 02, 2021 08:23PM
Local Walmart has a Visio similar to this . Visio. It is a 70 inch thou . People were asking if it was the right price . $1998 . Electronics person said it was the only one they had. .
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Re: I need a new 65" TV. (couch is 17 get away)
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 02, 2021 09:25PM
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srf1957
Local Walmart has a Visio similar to this . Visio. It is a 70 inch thou . People were asking if it was the right price . $1998 . Electronics person said it was the only one they had. .

1. Do not want a Vizio.
2. 70" would not fit.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 02, 2021 09:27PM
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space-time
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Bo
Pull down mantel mounts:
[www.mantelmount.com]
[homesthetics.net]

That seems like a nice solution!

Nice!
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Re: I need a new 65" TV. (couch is 17 get away)
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 02, 2021 11:26PM
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space-time
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srf1957
Local Walmart has a Visio similar to this . Visio. It is a 70 inch thou . People were asking if it was the right price . $1998 . Electronics person said it was the only one they had. .

1. Do not want a Vizio.
2. 70" would not fit.

That link links to a 75", not a 70".



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Re: I need a new 65" TV. (couch is 17 get away)
Posted by: datbeme
Date: January 03, 2021 12:08AM
You have obviously already made up you mind, so you may not be happy with anything other than the LG OLED. Whether or not you want to wait for a sale is up to you. The 65 CX model is the best bang for the buck, and it is $300 less than it was in the summer—BUT it is now $300 more than LG's promo sale price in November and December. So in this case, you MAY find a better price if you wait a bit.

I have one of the last great plasmas (Samsung's top model from 2014) and two LG OLEDs. The 1080p plasma holds its own on broadcast content, and it may even be better suited for lesser quality broadcast sources, but the OLEDs are next level on 1080p and 4K streams. Very happy with all of them. To me it's worth the premium for amazing black levels and stellar off-axis viewing angles.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 03, 2021 10:20AM
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space-time
Also the couch is 17 feet away from TV

That's not very far.

Ours is 15 feet and the angle is ~25-30 degrees. I don't like watching on that set.

I have this waiting in the garage. Waiting to install it until I get a new TV. The current one is a 52" Bravia and probably weighs a hundred pounds.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV. (couch is 17 get away)
Posted by: Rolando
Date: January 03, 2021 10:44AM
From 17 feet, how impressive will a TV be? For event-viewing, maybe projector and screen?



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 03, 2021 02:34PM
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Lux Interior
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space-time
Also the couch is 17 feet away from TV

That's not very far.

Really? Mine is only eight feet. Viewing angle is just a few degrees — my head is nearly level with the middle of the screen when sitting on my sofa. Works well for me.



It is what it is.
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Re: I need a new 65" TV. (couch is 17 get away)
Posted by: onthedownlow
Date: January 04, 2021 12:56PM
TCL 6-Series or 8-Series.

If mounting above the fireplace, consider a fireplace mount (Monoprice carries them), so the TV has the option to be pull out and lowered, for better viewing angles.



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Re: I need a new 65" TV.
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: January 09, 2021 10:15AM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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Lux Interior
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space-time
Also the couch is 17 feet away from TV

That's not very far.

Really? Mine is only eight feet. Viewing angle is just a few degrees — my head is nearly level with the middle of the screen when sitting on my sofa. Works well for me.

You have a low mantel then, I assume.

The bottom of my TV is almost six feet from the floor.
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