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Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 24, 2021 01:58PM
Had a 500GB boot drive recently fail, so looking for a replacement. The details on differences are not so easy to parse. Looking at 1TB model (may as well as space, and a 1TB capacity will potentially carry-forward to other uses).

Amazingly, 1TB drives still run close to $90. I purchased a good 1TB drive for $99 a couple years ago.

Looks like Crucial BX-500 and MX-500 series are positively reviewed, and the Samsung 860 EVO series.

Difference between the BX-500 and MX-500?

Others I should consider?
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: Rolando
Date: January 24, 2021 02:10PM
I've notice HD and SSD prices $/GB have been pretty flat for a couple of years. I expected 12TB to be $100 by now.



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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 24, 2021 02:11PM
I'm also thinking about getting a faster M.2

[www.newegg.com]

and used one of these adapters to put this into my nice OWC FW external drive:
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: January 24, 2021 02:13PM
Sekker,

Need details. Internal boot drive for a Macbook Pro? Internal boot drive for a desktop? External boot drive for a desktop? Type and age of machine? The answers make a significant difference in the type of drives.

Robert
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 24, 2021 02:23PM
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Robert M
Sekker,

Need details. Internal boot drive for a Macbook Pro? Internal boot drive for a desktop? External boot drive for a desktop? Type and age of machine? The answers make a significant difference in the type of drives.

Robert

This is an original i3 iMac with 12GB RAM and runs High Sierra. I've booted off an external SSD via an OWC Firewire drive, with the potential goal of installing the SSD internally. I have used this for iPhoto photos backup / archive, DVD / BR ripper, and iTunes server.

At this point, all SSDs on the market would be more than fast enough. But this machine is not worth any heavy investment. So maybe getting an M2 drive in a sled for now, getting this machine running again (has a CCC bootable hard drive from the week before it failed plus Time Machine) and then planning for the future - likely an M1 Mini is the plan.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: space-time
Date: January 24, 2021 02:42PM
I think Crucial is good but I heard Samsung is better. I did have a Crucial fail early on (they replaced it with a refurb) and now I have another one with 2 bad "sectors" or "blocks" (I don't recall if they use the same term for HD and SSD or not). Anyway, my preference would be Samsung, then Crucial.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: January 24, 2021 03:13PM
The NVME will give you more speed if you later upgrade to a USB 3 gen 2/Tbolt machine. If you do that, get a good enclosure-I’m not thrilled with my Orinoco.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: January 24, 2021 03:41PM
Sekker,

There is a small premium for an NVME SSD and enclosure but, forthe sake of future proofing, it's worth the extra bucks. You can get a 1TB NVME SSD and box for about $100 to $120. Search the forum for details. I'd avoid Orico boxes.

Robert
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 24, 2021 03:44PM
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Robert M
Sekker,

There is a small premium for an NVME SSD and enclosure but, forthe sake of future proofing, it's worth the extra bucks. You can get a 1TB NVME SSD and box for about $100 to $120. Search the forum for details. I'd avoid Orico boxes.

Robert

I came to the same conclusion. The hard part is having this work with my FW case, so ordered the sled I listed above. That might be the only lost cost, will always have good uses for a fast 1TB drive.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: January 24, 2021 04:05PM
Sekker,

Agh. Forgot about the firewire issue. Makes things more complicated.

Robert
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: PeterW
Date: January 24, 2021 04:12PM
Forget FW. Why bother with an SSD if you’re going to slow it down to hard drive speed?
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: January 24, 2021 04:21PM
It wouldn't surprise me if an SSD with a high IOPS (not high throughput) number attached to a USB 2 interface outperformed an internal hard drive.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 24, 2021 04:26PM
Thanks, all.

Refreshed from STF and this thread.

Have a 2000+ Mbps Crucial drive coming plus a sled that will get me back up and running and can move it forward down the road. Will be the first addition to a new M1 Mac mini, but that may be a little while yet.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: sekker
Date: January 24, 2021 04:28PM
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PeterW
Forget FW. Why bother with an SSD if you’re going to slow it down to hard drive speed?

We've been down this road before on MRF; an SSD in a USB2 external drive is a nice improvement over a spinny disk. FW was an easy and nice bump over USB2 on this Mac and I had the FW case already. The long-term goal intention was to go internal SSD, but never got around to doing the iMac surgery. Now I might not if I plan to use this M.2 drive later on.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: DP
Date: January 25, 2021 06:02AM
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I think Crucial is good but I heard Samsung is better. I did have a Crucial fail early on (they replaced it with a refurb) and now I have another one with 2 bad "sectors" or "blocks" (I don't recall if they use the same term for HD and SSD or not). Anyway, my preference would be Samsung, then Crucial.

For what it's worth, the only SSD that's ever failed on me was a Crucial MX-500.





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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: clay
Date: January 25, 2021 08:41AM
In my experience, I've never run into any issues with the dozens of Samsung SSD's I've used personally or put into people's computers. I have had repeated issues with Crucial, Sandisk and other lesser brands, admittedly with much smaller sample sizes.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: sunfalcon
Date: January 25, 2021 01:19PM
Running a 500GB 860 EVO SSD in an old Dell Optiplex and it has been rock solid. No M.2 option so had to go with the SATA drive.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: January 25, 2021 03:06PM
I've had one each of Intel, Crucial, Samsung, Adata, and SK Hynix. Light use for all; none failed.
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Re: Latest in SSDs - anyone up on details?
Posted by: AllGold
Date: January 25, 2021 05:25PM
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I think Crucial is good but I heard Samsung is better. I did have a Crucial fail early on (they replaced it with a refurb) and now I have another one with 2 bad "sectors" or "blocks" (I don't recall if they use the same term for HD and SSD or not). Anyway, my preference would be Samsung, then Crucial.

For what it's worth, the only SSD that's ever failed on me was a Crucial MX-500.

I have had a couple failures, a Crucial MX-300 (not 500) and also a Kingston way back several years ago.

I am currently using Toshiba, Sandisk, Crucial, Samsung and a Team Group with no failures (yet?). The Team Group is the newest so I have no idea about long term reliability.
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