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Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: February 13, 2021 01:08AM
We've had a bit of a cold snap here. Around -10 degrees outside. Came home from shopping to find the dishwasher overflowed into the sink and made quite the mess.

At first I thought it was just clogged. Emptied the water from the sink into buckets and dumped them down the toilet. Put a big bucket under the sink and pulled the P trap and it was all good. Ran the water on both sides of the sink and it drained through to the bucket so that part is good. Had to run to Walmart (only place still open) and pick up a snake because I couldn't find mine anywhere. Probably lent it to someone ages ago as we haven't had a clogged pipe since we moved into this house 4 or 5 years ago.

Came back and got about 3 feet down and hit something. Went at it for 5 minutes trying to grab or break through the blockage with no luck. Pulled out the snake and it was ice cold. DOH! Realized I was dealing with a frozen drain, not a clog at that point. The drain pipe is in an exterior wall, so that made some sense. Put the drain back together and boiled a huge pot of water full of salt(works great for melting ice). Dumped it down the drain and let it sit for an hour. No luck. Drained the pipes and repeated. No luck.

I have a hose hooked up to the hot water heater for resurfacing the backyard ice rink so I hauled the hose upstairs and tried spraying into the pipe to melt it with the hot water. Tried for 15 minutes and probably emptied the bucket a dozen times with no luck.

At this point it was midnight and I have had it with the pipe. Went down to the basement and ripped off the wood trim covering the drain from upstairs and pulled out all the insulation and sheet rock from around the drain pipe. There was a cleanout at the end of the pipe, pulled that out(gross inside) but snaked it to the main drain and it was good. Snaked up the pipe towards the sink and hit the blockage about 3 feet up right in the middle of the wall. Cut a hole into the cavity and grabbed the heat gun and temp probe to make sure I didn't melt the pipe or burn the house down. 10 minutes at 95 degrees later and I hear a wooosh over the sound of the heat gun. Mission accomplished.

Time to get some sleep. Little one has 2 hockey games tomorrow and I have to put a new bottom in the sink cabinet and replace the sheetrock and wood trim in the basement ceiling.

On the plus side, I probably saved myself several hundred bucks over calling a plumber on a Friday night.



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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: February 13, 2021 01:13AM
Damn dude, what an ordeal...that's a lot of work!
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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: AllGold
Date: February 13, 2021 01:46AM
Yikes!
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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: GGD
Date: February 13, 2021 01:50AM
Good work. But it sounds like the frozen spot was in a vertical section of pipe. How did water accumulate in that spot in order to freeze? Could there have also been a clog/slow obstruction there and that wet mess froze?

Maybe give it a good snaking, and maybe some extra insulation if that section really is a spot where water can accumulate long enough to freeze.
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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: DP
Date: February 13, 2021 07:25AM
Put a heater on that section till the weather warms!





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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 13, 2021 07:43AM
.....must be draining......work......



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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: modelamac
Date: February 13, 2021 07:48AM
C(-)ris,

You might want to leave that hole un-repaired unlocked you can figure out a way to prevent freezing again, or to thaw without destruction. Perfect opportunity.



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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: February 13, 2021 07:51AM
Can you still buy heat tape to wrap that drain pipe?
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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: Speedy
Date: February 13, 2021 08:31AM
Bummer. Needs a permanent fix.



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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 13, 2021 10:13AM
I think my parents went through something similar within a couple years of construction of their new home. It sounds like an insulation failure to me. Not necessarily that the insulation 'failed' but improper construction might be drawing cold in toward your pipe.

I'm with GGD in suspecting that there was already some sort of clog.

Where are the supply lines? aren't they usually near a drain pipe?


IMO while the temps are quite low they’re not that unusual so a house should be able to withstand then without special intervention







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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: Numo
Date: February 13, 2021 11:09AM
Similar temps here, so one thing I do is keep cabinet doors under the sink open until I outside temps warm up a bit.



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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: February 13, 2021 11:48AM
Frozen pipes, whether drain or supply is a pain in the...neck. Sorry you had to go to so much trouble to resolve the issue. Kudos for sticking with it until you fixed the frozen clog. thumbs up



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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: DP
Date: February 13, 2021 11:55AM
Oh, and drip your pipes at night till the warm comes back.





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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: February 13, 2021 01:02PM
Well done!
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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: hal
Date: February 13, 2021 01:20PM
"We've had a bit of a cold snap here. Around -10 degrees outside."

that would leave this area in a pile of rubble - every building would have broken pipes.
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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 13, 2021 06:29PM
....with the quarantine......a lot of single guys.......need to have their clogged pipes.....cleared.......



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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: February 13, 2021 06:48PM
Just got back from Hockey and dinner. I was trying to figure out why that spot would have had water to be able to freeze as well. Didn't make much sense to me either unless it was already plugged as it was a vertical section. Pipes are good, I snaked the entire thing and it drains very fast.

For some reason the supply lines come up through the bottom of the cabinet base, but the drain comes up through the wall and then comes out. Not sure why they put the drain in the wall.

The drain pipe is clamped to the outside wall of the house, the cavity is full of insulation, but all that it is doing is insulating the pipe from the heat of the indoors.

I'm contemplating moving it so it goes down through the cabinet base. I can do it, I'm just not sure it is worth the hassle. We went 5 years with no issues, and now that I know what I need to do it will only take 15 minutes to fix next time.



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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: AllGold
Date: February 13, 2021 07:27PM
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C(-)ris
The drain pipe is clamped to the outside wall of the house, the cavity is full of insulation, but all that it is doing is insulating the pipe from the heat of the indoors.

Could the problem be the clamp transmitting heat (cold) to the pipe?
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Re: Just finished clearing a frozen drain pipe
Posted by: Speedy
Date: February 14, 2021 05:59AM
I’m surprised the hot water from regularly running the dishwasher didn’t keep it open. I guess I would move it away from the outer wall since you’ve done half the work already.



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