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ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: clyde
Date: February 14, 2021 03:37PM
Have been with one ISP for 11 years.

Today I learn that the ISP is quitting email. It recommends Gmail and Outlook Mail. No sale on either of those. Gmail famous for censorship, etc.

I liked having one source for internet access and email. My internet access is ethernet; there is no other ethernet ISP here, so no options wave their hands…

What to do?
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: February 14, 2021 04:00PM
Clyde,

Easy solution. Go with Fastmail. Either use it directly or use it in conjunction with your own domain. It's completely independent of your ISP. Been using Fastmail for a _very_ long time. Think well over 10 years. It's a fantastic email provider and well worth the cost of admission. I use it in conjunction with my own domains.

[www.fastmail.com]

I haven't used ISP provided email since the days of dial-up. BAck in those days, I switched providers surprisingly often as new and better providers appeared and/or the current one became crappy. One of the benefits of an independent email provider is that upon switching ISPS, my email address and stored email never changed. I could jump from ISP to ISP and never have to worry about giving people a new email address.

Robert
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: Ken Sp.
Date: February 14, 2021 04:20PM
Best not to use your ISP.
Use Apple iCloud.com or ProtonMail [protonmail.com]
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: February 14, 2021 04:21PM
Time machine, as in Jules Verne or BTTF, not Time Machine, as in Apple's; go back to mid-1990's...

Feel free to pick your own date and time.
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: February 14, 2021 04:26PM
Another vote for ProtonMail [protonmail.com]
Their free service has worked fine for me for years and it's secure!
(& unlike google, yahoo, et all; they do not SPY on you)



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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 14, 2021 04:30PM
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clyde
Gmail famous for censorship, etc.

eh?



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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: space-time
Date: February 14, 2021 04:31PM
I liked having one source for internet access and email.


Why would you want that? it is exactly the opposite of what you should do.
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: GGD
Date: February 14, 2021 04:33PM
I'd second getting your own domain and an email host, using your broadband ISP for email just ties you to them, making decisions about switching harder.

I've had my own domain/email address since 1999, and had three ISP for home internet access during that time in two different homes, never had to change it.
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: February 14, 2021 04:33PM
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Robert M
Clyde,

Easy solution. Go with Fastmail. Either use it directly or use it in conjunction with your own domain. It's completely independent of your ISP. Been using Fastmail for a _very_ long time. Think well over 10 years. It's a fantastic email provider and well worth the cost of admission. I use it in conjunction with my own domains.

[www.fastmail.com]

I haven't used ISP provided email since the days of dial-up. BAck in those days, I switched providers surprisingly often as new and better providers appeared and/or the current one became crappy. One of the benefits of an independent email provider is that upon switching ISPS, my email address and stored email never changed. I could jump from ISP to ISP and never have to worry about giving people a new email address.

Robert

Another vote for Fastmail. I’ve been a very happy customer for 17 years. I started using their service for the same reason as Robert.



It is what it is.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2021 04:35PM by N-OS X-tasy!.
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: raz
Date: February 14, 2021 04:41PM
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Buzz
Time machine, as in Jules Verne or BTTF, not Time Machine, as in Apple's; go back to mid-1990's...

Feel free to pick your own date and time.
==

Time Machine is H G Wells - not Jules Verne



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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: clyde
Date: February 14, 2021 04:46PM
delete



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2021 04:49PM by clyde.
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: clyde
Date: February 14, 2021 04:48PM
space–time: Ignorance; didn't know better
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: February 14, 2021 07:57PM
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raz
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Buzz
Time machine, as in Jules Verne or BTTF, not Time Machine, as in Apple's; go back to mid-1990's...

Feel free to pick your own date and time.
==

Time Machine is H G Wells - not Jules Verne

The older Verne was Wells' muse/inspiration in a myriad of ways, plus he's name-checked in the 1960, The Time Machine movie. The little "m" in the OP was meant to reflect the SF'y concept vs. Apple or Wells' capital "M" as a titled entity. If only the Chunnel had been around back in their time period, they coulda hung out together.

Snagging and using your own domain certainly is the most efficient way of maintaining long term control over all things ethernety email-wise. Going back to the pre-wifi, post AppleTalk era seemed like the next best option, but it's dependent on the aforementioned SF'y concept becoming a reality....
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: clyde
Date: February 14, 2021 08:43PM
Found that Apple mail can be used without an ISP. Doing so involves iCloud, according to Apple, which should know.

How would using iCloud affect privacy?

I hear fastmail, hushmail, gmx & others can be more private, and some offer encryption. Would other emails require use of iCloud?
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: clay
Date: February 14, 2021 08:56PM
Apple mail is a generic email client. It can be an interface for ANY email account at any provider. iCloud does not need to be involved in any way.

Just pick an email provider you like, and you can add that account in Mail.
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Re: ISP quitting email; what now?
Posted by: Rolando
Date: February 15, 2021 12:17AM
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Ken Sp.
Best not to use your ISP.
Use Apple iCloud.com or ProtonMail [protonmail.com]

I have almost NEVER used my ISP email. My Gmail and Yahoo mail is so old, its my actual name...



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