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I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 24, 2021 05:58PM
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: February 24, 2021 06:00PM
You CAD!!



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: rgG
Date: February 24, 2021 06:21PM
RollingEyesSmiley5
Ugh.
Sometimes people take offense too easily.





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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: August West
Date: February 24, 2021 06:36PM
Socialist.



Apologies to the anonymous forum member affected by my previous sig pic. It was my personal pic of a country expressing great grief as their leader, one of the most recognized people in the world, lay on his deathbed 8 years ago, days before he died. Like a naif, I did not realize it was offensively political, I considered it an expression of deep emotion and a reminder of the mortal coil's nature; that we all, great and small, can only hope to make a difference in our short time here, no matter the personal cost.

I'll post another pic from my work in South Africa that is, hopefully, apolitical.

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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: deckeda
Date: February 24, 2021 06:39PM
So did you twist the knife by asking, "Do you add food coloring to get them to look like that? Because I see those kind in the grocery store and really like them super bright colors!!"

I believe architect of dead plants is the preferred term.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: February 24, 2021 06:51PM
Wait, they're not the same?

It must be the same look a visual designer gives when called a graphic designer.




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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: February 24, 2021 06:55PM
Can’t please anybody these days.



It is what it is.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: JoeM
Date: February 24, 2021 07:11PM
Coulda been worse. You might have called her a “flower girl”.



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: February 24, 2021 07:12PM
More importantly...who got the flowers?!?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: February 24, 2021 07:16PM
I knew a guy who owned a flower shop and people called him a "florist." He got tired of feeling people were questioning his masculinity, so he sold out and started a machine shop.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 24, 2021 07:32PM
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Lemon Drop
More importantly...who got the flowers?!?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Unfortunately my neighbor passed away from prostate cancer. He was a great guy. We'd work on cars together (he, knowledgeable and me, willing). But his extended family aren't distancing and masking enough for me to be over there like I'd like to be. But I have to represent and let them know he was special to me.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: February 24, 2021 07:34PM
Saying to an author of graphic novels 'So you write comic books?'.


But I have to represent and let them know he was special to me.

Good on ya, v!





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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Ammo
Date: February 24, 2021 07:46PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
Can’t please anybody these days.

There’s a lot of that going around. BTW, I believe replacing the word “anybody” with “anyone” would be more correct.



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: space-time
Date: February 24, 2021 07:54PM
how about the opposite: we overestimated someone by calling him [nah, it gets political]
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: jdc
Date: February 24, 2021 07:55PM
My degree is in Visual Communications. A graphic design degree pre computer.





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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 24, 2021 08:01PM
......at least you didn't call her.......'Flo.......Rida'..........



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: February 24, 2021 08:11PM
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vision63
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Lemon Drop
More importantly...who got the flowers?!?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Unfortunately my neighbor passed away from prostate cancer. He was a great guy. We'd work on cars together (he, knowledgeable and me, willing). But his extended family aren't distancing and masking enough for me to be over there like I'd like to be. But I have to represent and let them know he was special to me.

Sorry to hear that. The family will appreciate you.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: rgG
Date: February 24, 2021 08:58PM
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jdc
My degree is in Visual Communications. A graphic design degree pre computer.

My degree is a BFA in Graphic Design, also pre-computer. Lol





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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Bo
Date: February 24, 2021 09:54PM
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August West
Socialist.

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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: February 24, 2021 10:35PM
As implied by the term "Floral Designer", does she designer the actual flowers?



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: February 24, 2021 11:10PM
I know a floral designer. She is not a florist.



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: February 24, 2021 11:54PM
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Dennis S
I knew a guy who owned a flower shop and people called him a "florist." He got tired of feeling people were questioning his masculinity, so he sold out and started a machine shop.

Probably better money in the machine shop... higher overhead costs, though. Plus, having to clean out the coolant traps... Yuck!



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: vision63
Date: February 25, 2021 12:30AM
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Sarcany
I know a floral designer. She is not a florist.

Her scowl taught me that.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: d4
Date: February 25, 2021 08:43AM
If someone prefers to be called something other than what you said then call her what she wants. You only need to understand that it's what she prefers. No need for anyone to justify otherwise.



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: JPK
Date: February 25, 2021 08:56AM
You must be florphobic or some kind of florsogynist!

You must be cancelled!

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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 25, 2021 10:56AM
....did you discover the flower......of her secret.....?????



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: srf1957
Date: February 25, 2021 12:10PM
A. florist sells you flowers .. A floral designer buys from a lot of florists. Then arranges them for you at a 150% markup .
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: deckeda
Date: February 25, 2021 12:22PM
Oh. So floral designers are also florists unless they use a broker?
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: deckeda
Date: February 25, 2021 12:25PM
I suppose it’s a question inclusivity. An ophthalmologist often does what an optometrist does (write prescriptions) but the converse can’t be true.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Robert M
Date: February 25, 2021 12:32PM
Hi everyone,

There is an actual difference and it is along the lines of what srf1957 in his post. This is what I learned when my wife and I put together our wedding in 2010:

Floral Designer

A floral designer is an artist that takes flowers and other components to create custom unique designs for a given project, i.e. weddings, birthdays, engagements, corporate parties, etc. They don't necessarily have a store front with flowers on hand and/or predesigned arrangements for immediate purchase. They do have ample designs to present that a customer can request them use in their original form. They can customize it or design something entirely from scratch. They're job isn't to sell flowers per se. They sell designs that happen to contain them.


Florist

A florist sells flowers. They've got a stock of cut flowers and "ready to go" arrangements and a catalog of arrangements they put together regularly. That's all some florists do. Some florist do that and also throw together basic arrangement for pickup or delivery. Some florist are also floral designers or have a department that has a floral designer for customized unique arrangements that are above and beyond what a typical florist will do in his/her store.

And, yes, a floral designer can definitely get offended if you think of him/her as a florist. To a floral designer, being called a florist diminishes their professions and is like calling a trained locksmith a key cutter.

Robert
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: February 25, 2021 07:40PM
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d4
If someone prefers to be called something other than what you said then call her what she wants. You only need to understand that it's what she prefers. No need for anyone to justify otherwise.

Through many means we live in a society that tends to diminish and play rough with our simple sense of dignity and agency. More times than not I find no reason to bridle or snark at someone’s attempt at gathering a bit of that back on their side of the table.
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: M A V I C
Date: February 25, 2021 08:01PM
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d4
If someone prefers to be called something other than what you said then call her what she wants. You only need to understand that it's what she prefers. No need for anyone to justify otherwise.

The problem is, the list is so long it's unreasonable to expect people will know. Being upset with someone because they don't know is petty, arrogant and a few other undesirable traits. The experts are the ones with the expertise, and part of that expertise should be not holding average people to the same standard as experts.

Data analysts, data scientists, data engineers and similar all deal with this. This is true across many professions. Product designers and production designers are completely different, but I'd only expect people in the field to understand.

If you don't want your profession to be confused with another one, pick a profession that is widely known with commonly defined titles.




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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Robert M
Date: February 26, 2021 07:12AM
Hi everyone,

It's less so much the difference in professions and more how to work with someone who doesn't know the difference between them. An expert will know how to handle the situation in a professional manner. If that person is in a profession that is easily confused with another profession, then he/she needs to be less sensitive about this kind of issue.

Case in point, if I had to deal with with a floral designer who became offended and took it personally if I mistakenly thought he/she was a florist, I'd immediately walk out the door and take my business elsewhere. There are enough florist and floral designers that I don't need to give my business to someone who is so easily offended and unprofessional about a reasonable and unintentional mistake.

It'd be a different matter entirely if the person understood that he/she is in a profession that is easily mistaken for another and handled it in a professional manner. That means, handle it with courtesy and grace and educate the person who made the mistake.

Robert
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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: February 26, 2021 01:53PM
The floral designer I know works with CAD software, welds frames, sculpts foam.

I don't know that she actually has contact with flowers as part of her vocation. I think she has people do that for her.



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Re: I offended a floral designer today by calling her a florist
Posted by: freeradical
Date: February 26, 2021 10:15PM
Flowers are good, but leaves are not.
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