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A better butter...?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 10, 2021 10:54AM
Awhile back I asked about storing real butter outside the 'fridge.

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I'm about to run out of my long time choice, Challenge Whipped Better with Sea Salt.

Now, I'm going to try stick or cube butter, stored outside the 'fridge.

As it's not used frequently, the cube will be cut in half or thirds, with one part on standby and the rest back in the fridge.

Although, if I kept the butter in the 'fridge, I could use the EZ Butter slicer, as seen on TV!

It's to be used for as a spread for toast, pancakes waffles, and for popcorn, corn on the cob, and mashed potatoes, and not for cooking, so salted butter is needed.

So what are your preferences for real buttery goodness?


For bonus points, does anybody remember the commercial for a brand of butter that demonstrated its 'superiority' by showing a close up of a sliced cube revealing little teeny tiny beads of moisture or oil or something?





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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 10, 2021 10:59AM
I've been storing stick butter on the counter my whole life...
You're over-thinking this.
See, I know, because I am the MASTER of over-thinking, and I recognize the signs. grinning smiley



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Gareth
Date: March 10, 2021 11:02AM
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Paul F.
I've been storing stick butter on the counter my whole life...
You're over-thinking this.

Same here.
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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 10, 2021 11:04AM
.......Betty Botter bought some butter but, she said, this butters bitter; if I put it in my batter, it will make my batter bitter. But, a bit of better butter that will make my batter better..........



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 10, 2021 11:06AM
Ok, stored on the counter – check.

Now about a brand — real butter with real buttery goodness?





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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: March 10, 2021 11:19AM
Now about a brand — real butter with real buttery goodness?





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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: March 10, 2021 11:22AM
Butter doesn't need to be refrigerated unless it is so hot that it melts.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 10, 2021 11:44AM
As for Brand...
I usually buy a local creamery, which does you no good...
However, when I want some "extra good butter", I will grab KerryGold Irish butter. Quite a nice, rich, butter. Comes in salted and unsalted. I usually buy salted for spreading on thing to eat, unsalted for use as an ingredient (I can always add salt, taking it away is hard).

Hope you find a good brand of butter!



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: davester
Date: March 10, 2021 11:50AM
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Gareth
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Paul F.
I've been storing stick butter on the counter my whole life...
You're over-thinking this.

Same here.

Ditto.

I like Kerrygold Irish butter. Not too pricey at Costco.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Maddog
Date: March 10, 2021 12:00PM
If you can get Tilamook, unsalted from Oregon, you will have found your most excellent butter. I leave butter in the dish, uncovered on the counter, no problems.
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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: March 10, 2021 12:11PM
I keep a few sticks out, one in the glass butter dish and another for cooking and whatnot. For a few months in the Summer I have to keep it in the fridge. As for brand, I'm happy with the store brand.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 10, 2021 12:17PM
....Marlon Brando kept his butter.....in a weird place......



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: March 10, 2021 12:35PM
salted butter does not need to be refrigerated. In our house we just have to keep it where the cats can't get to it.
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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 10, 2021 12:44PM
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davester
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Gareth
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Paul F.
I've been storing stick butter on the counter my whole life...
You're over-thinking this.

Same here.

Ditto.

I like Kerrygold Irish butter. Not too pricey at Costco.

Another vote for Kerrygold.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: neophyte
Date: March 10, 2021 01:06PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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davester
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Gareth
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Paul F.
I've been storing stick butter on the counter my whole life...
You're over-thinking this.

Same here.

Ditto.

I like Kerrygold Irish butter. Not too pricey at Costco.

Another vote for Kerrygold.

And another.
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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: August West
Date: March 10, 2021 01:26PM
I 2nd Paul F on the local creamery. Did Kerry Gold for a long time, it's fine, but switched switched to Kirkland Sig as a back up to the preferred farmer's market.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 10, 2021 01:39PM
....Kerrygold is expensive and some question how 'organic' it really is......



.....both Aldi and Lidl (and I believe Trader Joes) now have their version of 'Irish butter' which is cheaper.......



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: davester
Date: March 10, 2021 01:50PM
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NewtonMP2100
....Kerrygold is expensive and some question how 'organic' it really is......



.....both Aldi and Lidl (and I believe Trader Joes) now have their version of 'Irish butter' which is cheaper.......

First off, I don't believe Kerrygold claims to be organic, so that is an irrelevant point. Secondly, as I noted, it is reasonably priced at Costco (though it is pretty pricey in regular supermarkets).

I know nothing of the other butters mentioned since Aldi and Lidl do not exist in California. Since you put 'Irish butter' in quotes, does that mean that they aren't Irish? The main claim to fame of Kerrygold is that it is 90+% grassfed and contains no GMO products. Also, it tastes delicious. Do those other butters taste as good?



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 10, 2021 01:54PM
....I should clarify....there are issues about the what is fed to the cows [ Kerrygold ]......you can believe or not believe it.....


....I'm not disparaging the Kerrygold.....it is a great tasting butter....i only put 'Irish butter' in quotes because the Aldi and Lidl brands are specifically listed as 'Irish butter' (not just butter) probably to compete directly with Kerrygold.....



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: March 10, 2021 02:01PM
Years ago, I started a thread here where I demonstrated the process for making homemade cultured butter.

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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Gilbert
Date: March 10, 2021 02:29PM
We always have the Kirkland Salted (Costco) on the counter and a backup box or two in the freezer. We did have Kerrygold at the holidays and it was good also.
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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: davester
Date: March 10, 2021 03:15PM
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NewtonMP2100
....I should clarify....there are issues about the what is fed to the cows [ Kerrygold ]......you can believe or not believe it.....

That turned out to be nonsense. The "issue" was that Kerrygold cows don't eat grass during the approximately 10% part of the season when the grass is dormant, so they are fed other things such as corn during that time. Notably all other "grass-fed" cows eat non-grass products part of the year so this is just a non-issue brought up by competitors to diss them.



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: wave rider
Date: March 10, 2021 04:04PM
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davester

I know nothing of the other butters mentioned since Aldi and Lidl do not exist in California.

I did go to an Aldi in La Habra when I was sheltering in place down south last spring. But I haven’t seen one in central or further Northern California. Reminded me of a blander Trader Joe’s.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: March 10, 2021 04:11PM
The best butter is peanut butter, or cashew butter, or almond butter, or macadamia nut butter, or the ever elusive pecan butter.....

or whatever butter Walkers puts in their "pure butter" shortbread cookies.
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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: March 10, 2021 05:07PM
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wave rider
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davester

I know nothing of the other butters mentioned since Aldi and Lidl do not exist in California.

I did go to an Aldi in La Habra when I was sheltering in place down south last spring. But I haven’t seen one in central or further Northern California. Reminded me of a blander Trader Joe’s.
Sounds reasonable as TJ & Aldi are 'corporate cousins'.

fyi, there's 82 ALDI's in California, but none north of Fresno.
[www.aldi.us]

Now, my question. What's the rule for unsalted butter?



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: DinerDave
Date: March 10, 2021 05:42PM
Here, I have the one stick that we are using on the counter in the butter dish. When that is almost depleted, I replace it. Of course, more out for room temp when cooking, baking.

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OK, then...
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 10, 2021 06:26PM
I'll try both Kerry Gold and Kirkland brand when next getting provisions at Costco.

There once was a dairy not toooo far from me, but it's long since closed down.

It's too bad, since when there's no rain, I like to saddle up that would have been a nice ride.


Thanks, Paul and all for the education and recommendations.

We never kept butter out and there were only a few days a year when it would have had to live in the 'fridge.

Of course Mom also fried pork chops until they could stop a .40cal round.

Don't get me started about Turkey days.

Now off to AMZ for a butter dish.





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Re: OK, then...
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 10, 2021 06:57PM
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RAMd®d
I'll try both Kerry Gold and Kirkland brand when next getting provisions at Costco.

That’s gonna be a lot of butter — make sure you have sufficient room for storage.

P.S. Kirkland butter is my typical go-to, too — it’s good.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 10, 2021 08:09PM
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Buzz
The best butter is peanut butter, or cashew butter, or almond butter, or macadamia nut butter, or the ever elusive pecan butter.....

or whatever butter Walkers puts in their "pure butter" shortbread cookies.
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You left out honey butter.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: FormerlySaleenl
Date: March 10, 2021 08:16PM
Search for a butter bell, the kind you put water in. Been using one for years with primarily Costco butter, but sometimes when we're feeling fancy we get Kerry Gold or the TJ's French butter. Remember, you can freeze the Costco butter and just thaw as needed!
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Re: OK, then...
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 10, 2021 08:24PM
That’s gonna be a lot of butter — make sure you have sufficient room for storage.


I've got a big counter, LOL!

I wasn't going to get both at the same time, but thanks for the heads up.

Checking Costco's site, I see that Kerrygold sticks are 8oz (x4) and Kirkland Signature is 16oz (x4) !

Oh, my!

Typical store brands are 4oz (x4), right?

Kerrygold is almost double the price and half the amount of Kirkland Signature.

But I'll give both a shot— eventually.

We're gonna need a bigger butter dish.





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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 10, 2021 08:53PM
after reading about it here I tried Kerrygold. I usually buy whatever is the least expensive butter at Aldi or Walmart and have kept it out on the counter for years.

In terms of taste the Kerrygold did not rock my world. The most curious feature to me is that at a room temp where the butter I usually buy would be merely softened the KG melted into the butter dish completely. Quite messy and very inconvenient when a recipe called for a tablespoon of butter.



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: Don C
Date: March 10, 2021 09:18PM
According to the previous owners, there was a dairy across the street from this house, I guess it would have been late 1940's or 50's. Now a parking lot for a funeral home. Certainly would be convenient for a local source.

Just recently started keeping a stick of butter in a butter dish on the counter; always kept it in the fridge. Come summer it will have to go back to the fridge as we do not have central A/C.

Never paid attention the taste of different brands. I've just been buying Kroger brand sticks. I would have thought that whatever you are using it for would dominate the flavors so that the flavor of the butter would be undetectable. Not so?
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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: davester
Date: March 10, 2021 09:20PM
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graylocks
The most curious feature to me is that at a room temp where the butter I usually buy would be merely softened the KG melted into the butter dish completely.

Perhaps your "room temperature" is a bit warmer than ours. During the hottest days of summer I have to put the KG in the fridge to keep it from melting but otherwise it's pretty solid (though not as hard as the regular american-style butters).



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Re: A better butter...?
Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 10, 2021 11:01PM
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davester
Perhaps your "room temperature" is a bit warmer than ours. During the hottest days of summer I have to put the KG in the fridge to keep it from melting but otherwise it's pretty solid (though not as hard as the regular american-style butters).

that's the thing - KG liquified at a room temp my usual butters merely soften at. I think i experimented with it last fall when the kitchen temp was at most 78.



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Re: OK, then...
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 10, 2021 11:27PM
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RAMd®d
That’s gonna be a lot of butter — make sure you have sufficient room for storage.


I've got a big counter, LOL!

You're not gonna keep all the butter on the counter at the same time, silly! smiley-laughing001


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RAMd®d
Checking Costco's site, I see that Kerrygold sticks are 8oz (x4) and Kirkland Signature is 16oz (x4) !

Oh, my!

Typical store brands are 4oz (x4), right?

Yes. Costco sells a 4-pack of what you would typically buy at a regular store. The Costco sticks are still 4 oz - you just get sixteen of them.





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