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Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: March 13, 2021 04:14PM
Poll
Is this the same person in both photos?
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29 votes were received.
Yes, absolutely 27
 
93%
No, you're crazy 1
 
3%
other - explanation below 1
 
3%



Long story short:
I was perusing historic photos of the city where my Dad grew up, and discovered one taken when he would have been 11 years old.

A family photo of him is on the left (unfortunately undated), and a crop of the historic photo I found is on the right (from the date it was taken, it would have been right around his 11th Birthday).

So - am I being wishful/seeing things, or does that look like it could be him on the right?

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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Acer
Date: March 13, 2021 04:17PM
Darn close, that's for sure.

Hair on the right has more of a wave, but that could be bedhead.

Not 100% sold on the ears.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 13, 2021 04:24PM
My gut says yes.



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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: March 13, 2021 04:25PM
My best guess is yes. Here's the clues I am looking at:

The prominent chin bone on both
The wide nose and narrow mouth on both
The puffiness of the lips on both
The most striking thing is the exceptionally long forearms on both.



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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: rgG
Date: March 13, 2021 04:30PM
I think it is.
The mouth, nose, shape of the face, and the same glasses make me think it is the same person.





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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 13, 2021 04:30PM
I would say yes. I will vote YES.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 13, 2021 04:32PM
Hair parted on the right is less common. I can't tell where it is parted in the left picture.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 13, 2021 04:32PM
4th of July, Memorial Day or Labor Day? seems like he;'s holding a flag and he is in a parade.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: March 13, 2021 04:45PM
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space-time
4th of July, Memorial Day or Labor Day? seems like he;'s holding a flag and he is in a parade.

It was a VJ-Day Celebration in the Chinatown part of the city; in the full photo he's holding a 48-star US flag
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 13, 2021 04:45PM
Both elbows are knotty. Both have a propensity to wear horizontal stripes.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 13, 2021 04:46PM
I don't see a single thing that says "no."
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: March 13, 2021 04:56PM
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Dennis S
Hair parted on the right is less common. I can't tell where it is parted in the left picture.

Didn't think of that; throughout his adulthood, my Dad parted his hair on the right (opposite of myself - I've been parting my hair on the left for as long as I can remember)
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 13, 2021 05:00PM
.....brother......from another.......mother.....????



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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Acer
Date: March 13, 2021 05:03PM
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Markintosh
The most striking thing is the exceptionally long forearms on both.

Good call.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: rjmacs
Date: March 13, 2021 05:05PM
Actually, Newt's comment reminded me of another thing I thought - siblings and cousins often look very similar as kids. We don't know the family tree, but if there was another kid in the group around the same age, it's possible they were lookalikes. I've found it hard to distinguish some pictures of some of my (many) aunts and uncles in family photos from childhood, especially because they often were groomed and dressed similarly by their families.



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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: PeterB
Date: March 13, 2021 05:52PM
The only single thing I see that would make me possibly say "no" is that the one on the left is a bit puffier/chubbier in the face than the one on the right, but ... that could just be puffiness/fluid retention due to allergies or any of a number of other reasons, such as the way the head is tilted and/or the camera angle.

As noted by others, the haircut is different, but again of course that could just be from when the photo was taken.




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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: deckeda
Date: March 13, 2021 06:30PM
Either same kid or OMG you found his twin brother.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 13, 2021 06:34PM
what about the pictures of the people next to him? he's most likely to be with his parents or relatives, do you have pics of your grandparents, or his uncles, aunts, etc?
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: space-time
Date: March 13, 2021 06:35PM
Also it's THE SAME GLASSES

EDIT: rgG already mentioned this fact. Sorry, I didn't see it before.



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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: March 13, 2021 06:49PM
Look at the farmer's tan on both upper arms.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: March 13, 2021 07:11PM
I'm voting for probably no*, but not for "you're crazy".

- Face is longer on the right photo; eye line to bottom of nose, bottom of nose to upper lip
- Jaw line seems sharper on right photo.



*Only if the two photos are supposed to be of the same age. They could be of the same boy at different ages; the younger on the left.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: March 13, 2021 07:11PM
If they're not the same person, those two are very closely related!

I voted same person.



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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: March 13, 2021 07:15PM
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Acer
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Markintosh
The most striking thing is the exceptionally long forearms on both.

Good call.

Disagree; that's not "exceptionally long forearms", that's relatively thin body overall.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: March 13, 2021 07:25PM
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space-time
what about the pictures of the people next to him? he's most likely to be with his parents or relatives, do you have pics of your grandparents, or his uncles, aunts, etc?

yeah - in the original photo, there's an adult male standing to the kid's left who I thought maybe could be my Grandfather, but upon closer examination decided that can't be the case (comparing with the two family photos I have of my Grandfather, the gent in the historic photo has a much wider nose than he did).



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2021 07:47PM by SDGuy.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: March 13, 2021 08:46PM
Another yes vote, based solely on the arms
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: wolfcry911
Date: March 13, 2021 09:10PM
No, the striped shirts are clearly different...
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 13, 2021 09:19PM
.....doppelganger......??



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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: March 14, 2021 07:33AM
Thank you everyone - I think I'll go with the majority and assume it's him; it was a pleasant surprise to stumble across it - only wish I had discovered it earlier when I could have asked him what he did on on VJ-Day.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: March 14, 2021 11:50AM
The striped shirts clinch it for me.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: btfc
Date: March 14, 2021 11:52AM
There is software and websites that will compare faces in multiple images, do a web search. One promising product is from Microsoft.
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Diana
Date: March 14, 2021 02:17PM
Same person or closely related.

If I take a photo of my dad and my brother at about the same age (fortunately we do have one of Dad) they appear to be the same person; also, some thought my brother and I were twins, even though there is a year between us.

Diana
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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Rolando
Date: March 14, 2021 03:09PM
Those ears are more asymmetrical than I would assume is normal, but that is the only thing telling me no. So a definite maybe!



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Re: Need opinions - are these two different photos of the same person?
Posted by: Buzz
Date: March 23, 2021 09:46PM
If not, as deck notes, they're identical twins and have the same DNA.
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