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OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: mspace
Date: March 26, 2021 02:32PM
So, there we were checking out at the Apple store whether we wanted to go with the 12 or 12 mini (from an iPhone 7). Were heading towards a mini, decided to do some more comparisons. Found some good reviews and one that mentioned the inherent screen flicker that happens with OLED, something I knew nothing about.

We are sensitive to these kinds of things and it could be a deal breaker. I have not noticed it when quickly looking at someone else's phone, but I could see where it could get VERY tiring and troublesome once I am using my own phone for a number of hours.

We really wanted to update our tech. I know we could do the iPhone SE 2020, but I'm hoping there will be a solution to the issue at some point. I am not in a rush to upgrade. The 7 still serves it's purpose well.

How much has this bothered anyone here?

Thanks . . .
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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: sekker
Date: March 26, 2021 02:46PM
I was underwhelmed by the OLED screen on the iPhoneX - I think the advantages of better blacks was outweighed by the color shift when turning the screen at an angle. I think the screen on the iPhone6S+ was at least as functional.

The OLED on the 12ProMax is clearly better however (as was the 11ProMax).

I have not been annoyed by any flicker on any, however.
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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: Gareth
Date: March 26, 2021 03:37PM
I've never noticed any flickering (XS Max, now 12 Pro Max). I did, however, have OLED burn-in on my XS Max after a year or so from using Waze about 2 hours a day, 5 days a week. Apple apparently would have replaced the screen under AppleCare, except they lost my phone and ended up replacing it instead.

If I had a choice of screens (as in the same phone with 2 screen options), I'd probably go LCD so I don't have a repeat of the burn-in, but I wouldn't let screen type sway my decision between two different phones with otherwise different features. I.e. since I always seem to want the largest top of the line phone, I'm not going to pick a lower end phone just to avoid an OLED screen.
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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: March 26, 2021 03:38PM
I am annoyed by flicker and while I can force myself to notice it on Mrs. Zealand's iPhone if I remember that it can, I never notice it in regular use. So it seems not to be a big issue.
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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 26, 2021 04:31PM
Knowing OLED's propensity for burn-in on long-term static images, I would actively avoid that particular technology for use as my smartphone's screen.

Mini- and MicroLED are perhaps the most promising prospects for improving the quality of the smartphone display. Then again, there isn't a single thing wrong with the display on my iPhone 6s -- it already looks pretty darn good.



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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: mspace
Date: March 26, 2021 05:15PM
Hmmm. . . Burn in. Didn’t know about that.

I guess we’ll be staying with the 7 unless there’s an immediate compelling issue.
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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: March 26, 2021 06:36PM
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mspace
Hmmm. . . Burn in. Didn’t know about that.

Yeah, I was surprised when it was announced that Apple was going to OLED for its high-end phone displays. OLED's propensity for burn-in of LONG-TERM STATIC images (i.e., precisely the type you might typically encounter on a smartphone display) is well known. It's a great technology for TV displays, but IMHO not so great for smartphone displays.

Disclaimer: It may be possible that the OLED displays Apple uses for its phone displays utilize a different flavor of the technology that reduces susceptibility to burn-in -- I haven't researched the issue.



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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: davemchine
Date: March 26, 2021 06:53PM
I have an OLED iPhone and love it. I’ve never noticed a flicker. What I have noticed is that I can read my screen in direct sunlight which is why I got it. Placing the same image on my iPhone and iPad outside it’s very clear the OLED screen is superior. I posted my thoughts last April. [forums.macresource.com]



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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: March 26, 2021 09:18PM
I knew about OLED burn-in and got a 12 mini anyway.

No flicker, no evidence of burn-in.

I think it only takes a little common sense to avoid it.

Don't max the brightness when not necessary, and don't leave it on a site or watch video with a stationary logo for long periods of time.

A lot of 'burn-in' on OLED screens is just image retention, a non-permanent condition, that can clear up on its own, or by using apps that display random patters slapping the taste out of pixels' mouths.

Actual burn-in was far more common on projection TV sets that used phosphor coated tubes.

I'd have no issue buying an OLED TV, aside from using a huge chunk of disposable income.






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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: March 26, 2021 09:21PM
I'm on an LG phone but ths oled screen has never been an issue, and it's been consistently good over the 2 years I've had it.
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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: davemchine
Date: March 27, 2021 10:09AM
We now have 3 OLED TVs in the house. They are fantastic.



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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: Rolando
Date: March 27, 2021 11:53AM
If it is a concern for you, the iPhone11 is a great phone, still with the best battery life!



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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: kj
Date: March 27, 2021 12:33PM
I don't notice any flicker, off axis color change (although I did on my wife's pixel, when she had it), or anything negative about the screen on my 12mini. Perfect replacement for my iPhone 7 (same size, but a little bigger screen). The black is very black, and with dark mode I notice and like that a lot.
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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: mspace
Date: March 27, 2021 01:28PM
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Rolando
If it is a concern for you, the iPhone11 is a great phone, still with the best battery life!

Unfortunately the size of that phone is too big which is why the mini is so attractive. Enough that I might allow myself to buy new, or wait for an Apple refurb.

Going to Best Buy later to check how my eyes are with any flicker by over dimming a demo. I guess my biggest concern is if it has more of a subliminal effect rather than being outwardly noticeable, such as eye strain or headache after a couple of hours use. This has happened to others and I’m not sure what I would do if that comes up.
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Re: OLED phone screens . . .
Posted by: kj
Date: March 27, 2021 03:29PM
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mspace
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Rolando
If it is a concern for you, the iPhone11 is a great phone, still with the best battery life!

Unfortunately the size of that phone is too big which is why the mini is so attractive. Enough that I might allow myself to buy new, or wait for an Apple refurb.

Going to Best Buy later to check how my eyes are with any flicker by over dimming a demo. I guess my biggest concern is if it has more of a subliminal effect rather than being outwardly noticeable, such as eye strain or headache after a couple of hours use. This has happened to others and I’m not sure what I would do if that comes up.

It's not necessarily just an OLED problem. You can read more about PWM used on the iPhone 12s here:

[www.notebookcheck.net]

They don't seem to think it's a huge problem. From what I understand almost everything uses PWM, it's just in the implementation, which seems decent for the iPhone.
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