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bandwidth estimate
Posted by: Fritz
Date: April 02, 2021 12:13PM
local FiOS is 200/400 or Gb.
Have 4 TVs, seldom more than 2 used at once.
4 computers. seldom more than 2 at once (backblaze & StreamYard)
no tablets.
no games.
3 Ring doorbells. No other Smarty stuff.
200/200 should be plenty, right?



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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: clay
Date: April 02, 2021 12:16PM
yes
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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: mattkime
Date: April 02, 2021 12:17PM
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Fritz
200/200 should be plenty, right?

Yes, for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone would need even that much.

I take that back, I have hit max speeds when uploading to google drive. I do that a couple of times a week....it doesn't really make my work any faster.

I suspect that the vast majority of people buying higher speeds barely use any of it.



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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: Fritz
Date: April 02, 2021 12:23PM
" I suspect that the vast majority of people buying higher speeds barely use any of it."

the sales pitch to little old ladies.

"what about when your grandkids come over with all their gaming consoles?"

"eh?"



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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: April 02, 2021 12:24PM
Estimate a 1080p HD stream takes about 6 Mbps and a 4K stream takes about 24 Mbps. Even if you were simultaneously streaming 4K to all four computers, that's only about 100 Mbps, half of your budget. The other half is WAY more than would be needed for normal computer stuff (barring the occasion SW DL).



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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: modelamac
Date: April 02, 2021 01:06PM
I have 10 grandkids, some with gaming consoles, and none have more than 200/200 at home. They all seem to be surviving. They leave the games at the door when they come over.

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Fritz
" I suspect that the vast majority of people buying higher speeds barely use any of it."

the sales pitch to little old ladies.

"what about when your grandkids come over with all their gaming consoles?"

"eh?"



Ed (modelamac)

I think I will just put an OUT OF ORDER
sticker on my head and call it a day.
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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: graylocks
Date: April 02, 2021 02:36PM
i live with an adult son who games and youtubes almost every non-working hour. i think a good majority of what he does is 4K.

i watch about an hour of netflix/hulu/whatever a day. i'm not sure how much of that is 4k.

we come close to maxing out the 1TB limit on Comcast every month.



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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: sekker
Date: April 02, 2021 08:20PM
200 - yes

We only have more because of some odd VPN usage and a need for higher speeds for some regular video uploads due to COVID.

With that last issue resolved as of last week, I will consider dropping to 200 for my household.
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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: space-time
Date: April 02, 2021 08:33PM
For whet you do, 200 is plenty.

I have 1G at the office and when I pull a new docker from the cloud I wish we had 10G fiber all the way to the desktop.
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Posted by: mattkime
Date: April 02, 2021 09:36PM
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space-time
I have 1G at the office and when I pull a new docker from the cloud I wish we had 10G fiber all the way to the desktop.

Sounds like you're pulling down some heavy images. That wasn't my experience working with docker.
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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: jdc
Date: April 02, 2021 09:36PM
Agree. Id happy take my old plan back.

We had 55/15 for many, many years -- never an issue. Since it was DSL, it actually runs more steady than our current comcast 200/5.

Even with 4 of everything (imac, iapd, iPhone, MacBook), and subscribed to all the TV plans. We regularly come close to 1 TB a month, even going over.





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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: space-time
Date: April 02, 2021 10:11PM
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mattkime
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space-time
I have 1G at the office and when I pull a new docker from the cloud I wish we had 10G fiber all the way to the desktop.

Sounds like you're pulling down some heavy images. That wasn't my experience working with docker.

Our dockers are huge
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Re: bandwidth estimate
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: April 03, 2021 04:46AM
There's more upstream traffic than we used to have. Video conferencing, gaming, IoT, etc.

Per Ars, there was a 31.8 percent growth in downstream traffic and 51.1 percent growth in upstream traffic just since March of last year.

Since you've got FiOS, you're fine. If it were cable, that'd be another story.

Upstream traffic slows downstream speeds on non-fiber systems (cable) because of the way both streams of data have to share one "pipe" asynchronously. The upstream packets take priority, so if you saturate your limited upstream bandwidth you can easily find that hitting your meager 5Mbps upstream cap means that what's supposed to be 100Mbps downstream slows to almost nothing.

It's one of cable's dirty little secrets and it's the real reason why many people are compelled to pay for Gigabit with companies like Comcast (even if they don't realize that's why) where one might think that the cheap 25Mbps base plan should be sufficient. The base plan only provides 3Mbps upstream. Gigabit offers 35Mbps upstream.

The kids playing on the Xbox in the next room aren't slowing down your Netflix stream because they're sucking so much downstream bandwidth. They're slowing it down because the Xbox is sending too much data upstream. (Plus, your WiFi probably sucks. But that's for another thread.)



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