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Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 08, 2021 09:19AM
Ford introduced the Maverick, a compact pickup with a 191 horsepower and 155 pound feet of torque hybrid engine. The hybrid Maverick will be able to carry about 1,500 pounds of cargo in its 4.5-foot bed and tow 2,000 pounds. Unusual for a truck, it will be front-wheel drive. An all-electric version is not being offered when the truck goes on sale later this year. The compact pickup is about a foot shorter than the Toyota Tacoma

The four-door pickup will get about 40mpg in city driving, with the base XL trim priced at $21,490. The next cheapest truck is a two-wheel drive extended cab Toyota Tacoma without rear seats for $25,610. The maverick is $755 cheaper than a Honda Civic





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Sounds like Ford has a winner. While I would have liked an all-electric option, this is something that will serve my needs and fit my budget.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 08, 2021 09:26AM
CVT :-(



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: June 08, 2021 09:33AM
Looks like a Ford Flex in pickup truck form. 40mpg and power to tow. Could be appealing to city slickers not wanting a full sized Ford Lightning.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 08, 2021 09:42AM
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pRICE cUBE
Looks like a Ford Flex in pickup truck form. 40mpg and power to tow. Could be appealing to city slickers not wanting a full sized Ford Lightning.
Also super useful for delivery services that need to handle a single pallet load. Electrics and Hybrids are perfect for short trip start/stop city delivery driving. Expect small box bodies for your doughnut runs ?
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: June 08, 2021 09:48AM
Still big compared to the little Ranger pup. As cbelt notes, there is a market for these (although the vans have sorta taken that market).
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: mikebw
Date: June 08, 2021 09:58AM
This looks great. Man that 4.5' bed is tiny though.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: June 08, 2021 09:59AM
Two years ago and I probably would be a Maverick owner. But after buying one EV, the though of buying another ICE vehicle loses its luster. Also not being able to get AWD without going to the larger engine is also a bummer.

The F150 Lightning looks like a better fit for our needs.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: June 08, 2021 10:07AM
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CVT :-(
agree smiley



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Forrest
Date: June 08, 2021 10:13AM
Looks like another winner from Ford. You have a choice of a 2.5L/hybrid with CVT or a 2.0L turbo with 8 speed automatic.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: rgG
Date: June 08, 2021 10:19AM
Recycling the Maverick name from long ago.







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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Acer
Date: June 08, 2021 10:24AM
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CVT :-(
agree smiley

Is this a problem of technology, or just taste?
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: June 08, 2021 10:56AM
FWIW.. considering Ford's history with their Automatics, I would choose the CVT. My son has had two of their dual clutch automatics replaced under warranty because the design is terrible.

I agree that CVT's feel weird... My Subaru has a CVT. It's kind of... laggy ? I also miss shifting, but at least I can 'downshift' to the low gear if I need to.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: June 08, 2021 10:57AM
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mattkime
CVT :-(
agree smiley

Is this a problem of technology, or just taste?

I've owned two Muranos with CVTs.

Never really noticed anything after the first month or so.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Lizabeth
Date: June 08, 2021 11:29AM
I would buy this instead of the Lightning if it were electric.

Currently driving a Geo Tracker so used to the shorter bed.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: June 08, 2021 11:43AM
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Lizabeth
I would buy this instead of the Lightning if it were electric.

Currently driving a Geo Tracker so used to the shorter bed.


I believe the story says an all electric version is down the road.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Lizabeth
Date: June 08, 2021 11:46AM
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I would buy this instead of the Lightning if it were electric.

Currently driving a Geo Tracker so used to the shorter bed.


I believe the story says an all electric version is down the road.

That would be awesome...and looking at the under 4000 lb trailers.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: jdc
Date: June 08, 2021 01:06PM
Sell like Hotcakes. and the 40 MPG is amazing.

Im not in the market anymore, but was reading about the new Kia minivan. Same V6 that's in everything... almost.

But the review went on to mention that Toyota now only sells the Sienna with a hybrid. Huge imho.

Everything else is 19/28... and the sienna is 36/36. BOOM. DOUBLE the milage around town -- when you are taking the kids to school/practice/playdates/costco/etc.

I agree about the EV vs ICE, but not in this market... yet.





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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 08, 2021 01:49PM
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mattkime
CVT :-(
agree smiley

Is this a problem of technology, or just taste?

Most would consider it to be taste. More companies are using them since they allow you to run the motor at low RPMs no matter the speed. They make the gas pedal feel laggy and disconnected from the car. Definitely not something you'd notice if you were hypermiling.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: June 08, 2021 03:12PM
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Acer
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MrNoBody
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mattkime
CVT :-(
agree smiley

Is this a problem of technology, or just taste?

Personal preference plus I've had several techs tell me CVT can be
expensive to repair & not every shop is equipped to service them.
ymmv



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: bfd
Date: June 08, 2021 04:32PM
Nothing but CVT cars for the last 15 years. Not one problem. The steady acceleration is a great thing, especially with an electric motor…
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: June 08, 2021 04:36PM
I'd guess that repairing a cvt transmission would be "novel" for many shops (read: expensive for the consumer), but my guess is that they are also reliable based solely on the tech.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: btfc
Date: June 08, 2021 05:10PM
“ Still big compared to the little Ranger pup “

No:

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“ 40mpg and power to tow “

The 40 mpg model can only tow 2000 lbs.

“CVT”

They’re getting better all the time.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Acer
Date: June 08, 2021 05:42PM
I keep my CVT Prius on "Eco-mode" acceleration all the time. I don't notice any lag anymore, though when I drive the ICE minivan after a long hiatus I have to learn to feather the pedal again lest I burn rubber. If I want more grab, I have "normal" and "sporty" (or some such) settings. I never use them.

At work we have a CNG car. The lag on that piece of crap is deadly on a busy merge.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: June 08, 2021 06:58PM
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btfc
“ Still big compared to the little Ranger pup “

No:

[s.yimg.com]

“ 40mpg and power to tow “

The 40 mpg model can only tow 2000 lbs.

“CVT”

They’re getting better all the time.

Oh, it's grown by about 20" in length, so I'd call that getting bigger.
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: June 08, 2021 09:06PM
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Acer
At work we have a CNG car. The lag on that piece of crap is deadly on a busy merge.
That might be a symptom of a problem rather than a side-effect of CNG as a fuel. To be clear, you mean "lag" as in there's a distinct pause between pressing the throttle and any discernible increase in speed or engine noise rather than that the vehicle is slow or underpowered across the board, right?



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 09, 2021 12:50AM
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This looks great. Man that 4.5' bed is tiny though.

Yeah, I've never understood the move to smaller beds in pickups. I know it's a result of the whole crew cab thing, but still... it's a eff'ing truck!



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 09, 2021 12:51AM
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Nothing but CVT cars for the last 15 years. Not one problem. The steady acceleration is a great thing, especially with an electric motor…

You are the ONLY person I've ever known to use the words "CVT" and "steady acceleration" in the same sentence!



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 09, 2021 03:25AM
(although the vans have sorta taken that market).[/i


Sure, but bring an armoire or 'fridge home in a van.

I'd rather it be done in a truck.

I think it's unfortunate to recycle the Maverick name.

Well, maybe disappointing is more accurate, as the name itself probably won't deter any buyers.






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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 09, 2021 06:17AM
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I think it's unfortunate to recycle the Maverick name.

Well, maybe disappointing is more accurate, as the name itself probably won't deter any buyers.

You really need to be 50+ to have any remembrance of the original Maverick. Even then it was somewhat Ford's forgotten pony car. The Mustang is still revered despite the car sucking in the seventies; the Pinto is remembered for blowing up. The Maverick? it wasn't special but it also wasn't a disaster, it just was...

I have no issues with the name, after all Ford could have named it Granada or Fairmont



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: June 09, 2021 06:22AM
Maybe Ford will resurrect the Cougar name next. I know it was a Mercury, but part of the Ford family. It could be targeted to a certain segment of the population.smiley-laughing001
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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: June 09, 2021 09:53AM
At least they didn't resurrect the Ford Courier name.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: jdc
Date: June 09, 2021 11:04AM
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This looks great. Man that 4.5' bed is tiny though.

Yeah, I've never understood the move to smaller beds in pickups. I know it's a result of the whole crew cab thing, but still... it's a eff'ing truck!

But that's just it... its not meant to be a "truck".

Ford doesn't make cars anymore... so its designed to replace a car, or its an Escape with a bed. =)

Once drive reviews are in late this year, if its nice -- as in power is OK, comfort is fine, etc, Id consider one as an around town driver. And no one has really ever said that about a "truck" =)





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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: wave rider
Date: June 09, 2021 11:29AM
I wonder if the Maverick uses the Toyota hybrid power-train? I thought some Ford hybrids went that way.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 09, 2021 11:33AM
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This looks great. Man that 4.5' bed is tiny though.

Yeah, I've never understood the move to smaller beds in pickups. I know it's a result of the whole crew cab thing, but still... it's an eff'ing truck!

But that's just it... its not meant to be a "truck".

Just to be clear... "it's an eff'ing truck!" was meant to refer to crew cab trucks in general, not the particular Ford model under discussion. I would have thought that obvious by virtue of the context provided by the previous sentence. I guess I shouldn't have switched from plural to singular.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: June 09, 2021 11:43AM
Small pickups are very popular outside of the US. I wouldn't be surprised to see this become a global model.
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Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 09, 2021 11:55AM
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Small pickups are very popular outside of the US. I wouldn't be surprised to see this become a global model.

I saw compact crew cabs throughout Central America in the 80s'. At that time I couldn't figure out why they weren't available in the US. I recall seeing models from Toyota, Mazda, Nissan, Mitsubishi, and Volkwagon back then. They are still there today, but nothing from the US carmakers.



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Posted by: Rick-o
Date: June 09, 2021 12:35PM
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This looks great. Man that 4.5' bed is tiny though.

Yeah, I've never understood the move to smaller beds in pickups. I know it's a result of the whole crew cab thing, but still... it's a eff'ing truck!

This is why I always buy regular cab trucks (that, and reg. cab GM trucks have a 34 gallon tank).

I WANT the 8' box! If you need more passenger space, go buy yourself a minivan and leave our pickups out of it. smiley-laughing001



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: June 09, 2021 02:39PM
If it wasn't a pain to park, I'd go with the 3/4 ton crew cab 8 ft bed. If Ford made an electric version that has 400+ mile range I'd be all in.
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Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 09, 2021 06:15PM
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This looks great. Man that 4.5' bed is tiny though.

Yeah, I've never understood the move to smaller beds in pickups. I know it's a result of the whole crew cab thing, but still... it's a eff'ing truck!

This is why I always buy regular cab trucks (that, and reg. cab GM trucks have a 34 gallon tank).

I WANT the 8' box! If you need more passenger space, go buy yourself a minivan and leave our pickups out of it. smiley-laughing001

Precisely.



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Re: Ford introduces compact hybrid pickup
Posted by: Pat
Date: June 09, 2021 07:42PM
I have a crew cab.
It has an 8' bed.
Some of us not only build stuff so that people with button up shirts have somewhere to go during the day, we also have families we like to take places on the weekend. Soccer games and grocery stores too!

Bed length dictates fuel tank size, not cab. Regular cab with a shortbed still has a small tank. At least for body on frame models.

Explorer SportTrac?
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Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: June 10, 2021 01:20AM
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Pat
I have a crew cab.
It has an 8' bed.
Some of us not only build stuff so that people with button up shirts have somewhere to go during the day, we also have families we like to take places on the weekend. Soccer games and grocery stores too!

Bed length dictates fuel tank size, not cab. Regular cab with a shortbed still has a small tank. At least for body on frame models.

Explorer SportTrac?

Would you say in general though, Pat, that the move towards crew cab trucks has resulted in shorter truck beds?



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Posted by: mikebw
Date: June 10, 2021 11:07AM
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This looks great. Man that 4.5' bed is tiny though.

Yeah, I've never understood the move to smaller beds in pickups. I know it's a result of the whole crew cab thing, but still... it's a eff'ing truck!

But that's just it... its not meant to be a "truck".

Ford doesn't make cars anymore... so its designed to replace a car, or its an Escape with a bed. =)

Once drive reviews are in late this year, if its nice -- as in power is OK, comfort is fine, etc, Id consider one as an around town driver. And no one has really ever said that about a "truck" =)

I mean sure, if it suits you. A station wagon would fit longer cargo better however.
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