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“ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: btfc
Date: August 03, 2021 07:03PM
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 03, 2021 07:04PM
Perfect.
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: GGD
Date: August 03, 2021 07:21PM
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space-time
Perfect.

Or maybe not...

"Frontier suspended the crew for duct taping the passenger to his seat as they landed in Miami."
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 03, 2021 07:28PM
Suspended with pay ... could be worse. Still, I understand the representative's umbrage here especially in light of the asshat who had to be similarly duct-taped by American Airlines recently. She should be allowed back to work as soon as she wants to be.

And I thought booze availability was being curbed by the airlines, no?
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 03, 2021 08:39PM
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deckeda
And I thought booze availability was being curbed by the airlines, no?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2021 08:41PM by DeusxMac.
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 03, 2021 09:28PM
I am all for airline crews being able to duct tape unruly people, especially if the unruly passenger is wearing shorts and has leg hair.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2021 11:57PM by pRICE cUBE.
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 03, 2021 09:35PM
Or maybe not...


Yeah, there was no way that wasn't going to come back and bite them.

Management sucks.

There's always the possibility of a lawsuit, as well.

He was arrested on three counts of misdemeanor battery. FBI agents are not pursuing federal felony charges, according to multiple reports.

I wonder if any of those charges as some form of sexual assault or battery.

Groping shouldn't be passed off as 'yeah, he was just drunk and they're flight attendants, what do thay expect'.

60 days minum in GenPop and No Fly Ever, at least on FF.

The FAA really needs to step up and step in.


In related news:

85 percent of Flight Attendants dealt with unruly passengers, nearly 1 in 5 experienced physical incidents in 2021

Flight Attendant Union Calls on Frontier Airlines to Support Crews Immediately





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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 03, 2021 09:37PM
I am all for airline crews being able to duct tape unruly people

Agreed.



especially if the unruly passenger is waiting shorts and has leg hair.

Cruel and unusual, I like it.





Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody matters or nobody matters.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 04, 2021 01:36AM
There is video. There is no "allegedly" about it.



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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: SteveO
Date: August 04, 2021 07:45AM
Agree, this guy (and those like him) needs to spend some time in a special facility thinking, and atoning for his behavior. Sadly, his $2m parents will probably spring him, seeing as how he was apparently raised. (TBF, I guess he could be just a bad seed, though.)

Another attendant got punched in the face fairly recently on a plane by yet another a-hole passenger. This @#$%& needs to be stopped cold. People are emboldened to be a-holes these days. I wonder where ever that came from. Bless their little hearts. /sarcasm
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: raz
Date: August 04, 2021 09:31AM
We need a vaccine for affluenza. I'm thinking hard labor.



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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: Rolando
Date: August 04, 2021 10:38AM
They took away his freedumbs!!!



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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: kj
Date: August 04, 2021 12:51PM
If there is no protection provided by the airline, they shouldn't be blamed for doing it themselves. I'm sure they knew they would get in trouble, but protecting one's physical well-being comes before even a good job. pRiceCube should be in charge of all this kind of stuff.
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: kj
Date: August 04, 2021 12:59PM
Btw, we flew this past spring, and it was abundantly obvious the flight attendants had lost it. The passengers were so nasty, I couldn't believe it. They've had plenty of time to figure it out, but haven't bothered. Fwiw, I couldn't identify any particular group of people misbehaving (young, boomer, male, female). Well, except they were the people who haven't developed since they were toddlers.
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: Robert M
Date: August 04, 2021 02:51PM
Hi everyone,

You'd think every flight would have one or more Federal Air Marshals on it to deal with this crap. That way, the flight crew can immediately put the matter into the hands of the officer(s) and be done with it.

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Robert
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: wowzer
Date: August 05, 2021 06:54AM
If only they could duct tape Andrew Cuomo to the gov's chair, perhaps he would stop groping women too.



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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 05, 2021 06:07PM
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Robert M
Hi everyone,

You'd think every flight would have one or more Federal Air Marshals on it to deal with this crap. That way, the flight crew can immediately put the matter into the hands of the officer(s) and be done with it.

[jobs.tsa.gov]

Robert

I have a feeling air marshals don’t get involved with the more mundane violence since it could be just a distraction to smoke them out.



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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: Robert M
Date: August 05, 2021 09:18PM
Speedy,

If that's the case, then it's time for air marshals to get off their butts and start dealing with these issues. Maybe the number of incidents will drop once people realize law enforcement is already on the plane and ready to take immediate action to "resolve" the problem.

Robert
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Re: “ Passenger taped to seat after allegedly groping, punching Frontier Airlines crew “
Posted by: kj
Date: August 06, 2021 12:43PM
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Robert M
Speedy,

If that's the case, then it's time for air marshals to get off their butts and start dealing with these issues. Maybe the number of incidents will drop once people realize law enforcement is already on the plane and ready to take immediate action to "resolve" the problem.

Robert

I agree. I feel like most of what I saw would disappear if consequences were likely, or even possible. Allowing it to continue to escalate is asking for big problems.
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