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Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: pdq
Date: August 14, 2021 11:33AM
...or near garage, I guess. There's this little gap between the framing around the door and the concrete of the driveway and garage floor:



Okay, so maybe just sand settling around the foundation...after 25 years. >:/

So we fill it with sand, and it keeps opening up. Over and over. Hmm.

To the (motion-activated) Batcam, Batman!

Uh-oh - what was that?



Mouse. Big mouse. Or rat, which we've never seen around here.

Maybe it was just passing by?



Nope! Better look at these other clips it caught.

Oh dear.



Oh, dear God!



Sadly, not Photoshopped. This was all just last night.

So, to come to the point, what would you do? I'm inclined to stuff the hole with coarse steel wool embedded in caulk...but would that just trap this burgeoning colony/family inside? Should I set traps outside first, then seal up?

What would you do?
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: C(-)ris
Date: August 14, 2021 11:37AM
Set traps inside and seal it up with mortar.



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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 14, 2021 11:41AM
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C(-)ris
Set traps inside and seal it up with mortar.

agree smiley (Great photo captures!)



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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: pdq
Date: August 14, 2021 11:46AM
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C(-)ris
Set traps inside and seal it up with mortar.

"Inside"...the garage? (The hole is on the outside).

Inside the house?
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 14, 2021 11:51AM
I wanna see the screen cap with eight rats.



It is what it is.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: Forrest
Date: August 14, 2021 11:56AM
Looks like the mice are in the walls. Might be time to call an exterminator.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 14, 2021 12:24PM
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Forrest
Looks like the mice are in the walls. Might be time to call an exterminator.

I was thinking the same. but they are just gonna put out traps too.

You will want to make sure you trap all of them before sealing anything up, natch.

Having them die inside the wall will stink for a long long long time. Trust me.





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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: August 14, 2021 12:24PM
......won't caulk just attract more [ everyone loves caulk ]......????



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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 14, 2021 12:30PM
Rats! are everywhere! We are dealing with it now. In fact, I'm sitting outside now and there's a new dead one about 20 feet from me. I used the deadly chews but the non toxic variety (supposedly) toward other possible prey.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: Acer
Date: August 14, 2021 12:46PM
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jdc
Having them die inside the wall will stink for a long long long time. Trust me.

Indeed. Still smells in a certain basement, not mine but with which I am familiar...15 years later.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 14, 2021 12:48PM
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Acer
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jdc
Having them die inside the wall will stink for a long long long time. Trust me.

Indeed. Still smells in a certain basement, not mine but with which I am familiar...15 years later.

Yikes!
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 14, 2021 02:01PM
got 3 minutes to solve this issue?

[www.yenisafak.com]
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: d4
Date: August 14, 2021 02:12PM
Awww.. if those rodents were born with furry tails, they'd be loved, photographed, fed peanuts and adored like their squirrel cousins. Without furry tails, they are chased, screamed at, whacked with brooms, fed poison, and traps snap their necks. Reduced to hiding in walls and coming out at night in search for scraps of food in the garbage sad smiley

Try a bit of bacon or beef jerky tied tightly with thread onto the snap trap trigger. Something that makes the rodent tug at it... SNAP!



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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 14, 2021 02:38PM
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d4
Awww.. if those rodents were born with furry tails, they'd be loved, photographed, fed peanuts and adored like their squirrel cousins. Without furry tails, they are chased, screamed at, whacked with brooms, fed poison, and traps snap their necks. Reduced to hiding in walls and coming out at night in search for scraps of food in the garbage sad smiley

Try a bit of bacon or beef jerky tied tightly with thread onto the snap trap trigger. Something that makes the rodent tug at it... SNAP!

Pretty much what we do with minorities in this country.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: testcase
Date: August 14, 2021 03:42PM
Copper wool (won't rust like steel wool). COMPLETELY fill the crack with copper wool and maybe cover that over with a sealant.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: pdq
Date: August 14, 2021 04:11PM
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space-time
got 3 minutes to solve this issue?

[www.yenisafak.com]

I got all the time in the world, but I don't have a snake that big. Yikes!

Seemed rather effective, though.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: btfc
Date: August 14, 2021 04:24PM
Mice.


Got your breeder’s license?
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: August 14, 2021 04:33PM
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testcase
Copper wool (won't rust like steel wool). COMPLETELY fill the crack with copper wool and maybe cover that over with a sealant.


....but isn't copper expensive now......???


.....people are stripping houses of copper to sell......



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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: Carm
Date: August 14, 2021 04:58PM
Set snap traps and sticky traps. Get all of them that get out and then seal it up.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 14, 2021 05:19PM
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Carm
Set snap traps and sticky traps. Get all of them that get out and then seal it up.

This. You don't want dead mice left in the hole.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: d4
Date: August 14, 2021 05:46PM
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space-time
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d4
Awww.. if those rodents were born with furry tails, they'd be loved, photographed, fed peanuts and adored like their squirrel cousins. Without furry tails, they are chased, screamed at, whacked with brooms, fed poison, and traps snap their necks. Reduced to hiding in walls and coming out at night in search for scraps of food in the garbage sad smiley

Try a bit of bacon or beef jerky tied tightly with thread onto the snap trap trigger. Something that makes the rodent tug at it... SNAP!

Pretty much what we do with minorities in this country.

What do you mean by "we"?



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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: August 14, 2021 05:54PM
Had chipmunks gnaw through a corner of the garage door insulation to get into my mom's garage. They pooped on everything and climbed a shelf, got to a big bag of bird seed and cleaned it out in a matter of days (leaving lots of poop in an otherwise empty bag).

I made a clean cut in the insulation, carved a chunk of melamine sponge into the right shape to fit the gap, painted it with epoxy resin to harden it and secured it to fill the hole, then soaked a cotton swab with "Red Fox Urine" predator-scent and painted the outside corner of the garage with it, around the hole, left the cotton ball in the soil near the garage.

Had to deal with a strong ammonia odor for a few days just outside of the garage. Scent didn't spread very far by our human noses.

They never came back.







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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: space-time
Date: August 14, 2021 05:55PM
I didn't mean WE on this forum. I meant those we see every day supporting racism. Just turn on Fox News if you want to see some examples.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: rgG
Date: August 14, 2021 06:30PM
Please don’t use a sticky trap.
I think those are one of the cruelest ways to trap any animal, and you still have to kill them after they are stuck.
A rat zapper worked well for use to kill a few rats we had inside a pantry, where the cats couldn’t get to them.





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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 14, 2021 08:20PM
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rgG
Please don’t use a sticky trap.
I think those are one of the cruelest ways to trap any animal, and you still have to kill them after they are stuck.
A rat zapper worked well for use to kill a few rats we had inside a pantry, where the cats couldn’t get to them.

Agree! Also, nothing toxic that will then harm other prey. But I'm sure you are already on that path.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: pdq
Date: August 14, 2021 08:37PM
So, thanks for your help and suggestions. Here's my plan: lay a few snap traps (baited w peanut butter, which mice seem to love) for a few nights to (hopefully) decrease the population. Wife is worried about the local chipmunks, but I think they are less nocturnal, and might be able to get out of a mouse-sized snap trap.

After the count goes down, I'll either find some copper wool and caulk it in, or mortar it closed (which I'm less certain about having a good cosmetic result, unless I get a mortar tube and some premixed stuff).

I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: DewGuy
Date: August 14, 2021 09:28PM
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pdq
So, thanks for your help and suggestions. Here's my plan: lay a few snap traps (baited w peanut butter, which mice seem to love) for a few nights to (hopefully) decrease the population. Wife is worried about the local chipmunks, but I think they are less nocturnal, and might be able to get out of a mouse-sized snap trap.

After the count goes down, I'll either find some copper wool and caulk it in, or mortar it closed (which I'm less certain about having a good cosmetic result, unless I get a mortar tube and some premixed stuff).

I'll let you know how it goes.

Something like these might work in lieu of copper wool and can usually be found in your local grocery/department store...

Chore Boy Ultimate Copper Scrubber Scouring Pad, Pure Copper (10-Pack)

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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: pdq
Date: August 15, 2021 08:52AM
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DewGuy

Something like these might work in lieu of copper wool and can usually be found in your local grocery/department store...

Chore Boy Ultimate Copper Scrubber Scouring Pad, Pure Copper (10-Pack)


Ordered. Thanks!
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: deckeda
Date: August 15, 2021 09:31AM
Was thinking that if you could put something down in the hole they don’t like, they won’t go back. Ammonia? No, something safer. Vinegar and red pepper? If you’re lucky you might even flush them out or at least catch them on “off hours” (they gotta go out for food and water.)

And then seal it up. One of those small driveway sealer bottles should do it.
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: rgG
Date: August 15, 2021 12:38PM
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deckeda
Was thinking that if you could put something down in the hole they don’t like, they won’t go back. Ammonia? No, something safer. Vinegar and red pepper? If you’re lucky you might even flush them out or at least catch them on “off hours” (they gotta go out for food and water.)

And then seal it up. One of those small driveway sealer bottles should do it.

I was wondering about that, too.
Supposedly they don’t like the smell of peppermint. I bought some peppermint oil and soaked cotton balls with it to help keep mice out of a closet.
Moth balls might work, but don’t know if they would kill the buggers or be bad for off gassing in the garage.





Roswell, GA (Atlanta suburb)
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Re: Need help with problem with garage
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 15, 2021 04:13PM
I'm using moth balls, vinegar and ammonia in separate areas now to rid the rats. It seems to be working (in addition to non-toxic bait).
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