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I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
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Date: August 22, 2021 12:10PM




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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: lost in space
Date: August 22, 2021 12:17PM
I hear that sometimes from my kids. I set them straight. Oldies are old music to OUR generation, not THEIRS. 90s stuff is new, right?

Distressing, especially when I hear music I have on vinyl being piped out in grocery stores.



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 22, 2021 12:25PM
"Classic Rock" station here throws in plenty of early/mid 80s stuff. pfft.





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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Buzz
Date: August 22, 2021 12:27PM
Oldies music from the 90's means the 1890's....
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: MEG
Date: August 22, 2021 12:44PM
Well...AARP is presenting 90s band Everclear in a concert <sigh>
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: S. Pupp
Date: August 22, 2021 12:54PM
So Oasis, Spacehog, Alanis Morrisette, and Nirvana are all Oldies?
Geez!



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 22, 2021 01:26PM
The teen is correct.

The term 'oldies' originated in the 1960's. In the age of Top 40 radio, anything that was no longer currently on the 40 record playlist was referred to as an oldie.

Oldies shows at my first station (called Rockin' Remnants) featured songs that were 6 months older or greater.

Another reason for the name was that pop and rock music was evolving so quickly (along with the growing baby boomer generation that listened to it) that to a 14-17 year old teen, the perceived cultural separation of the 'old' generation born 1944 and before from the vast youthquake of 1945+ was substantial.

(There were also lingering echos of the JFK death separation point as well, but that's only a suspicion)

However, the term was definitely a Top 40 radio artifact, no matter what the background influences validating it.



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: raz
Date: August 22, 2021 01:26PM
Did she know that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 22, 2021 01:27PM
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raz
Did she know that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?

The Beatles was another 'before and after' landmark for some.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: srf1957
Date: August 22, 2021 01:33PM
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raz
Did she know that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?

I was amazed in the late 80's . A young co-worker didn't know Ozzy started with Black Sabbath .
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 22, 2021 01:33PM
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S. Pupp
So Oasis, Spacehog, Alanis Morrisette, and Nirvana are all Oldies?
Geez!

Some might say, don't look back in anger.





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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: hal
Date: August 22, 2021 02:07PM
When I was a kid in 1975, anything from 1955 was an oldie, anything from 1945 was positively ANCIENT!
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: August 22, 2021 02:28PM
An inconvenient truth: they very much are.



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 22, 2021 02:50PM
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raz
Did she know that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?

the correct answer: who and who?





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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: August 22, 2021 04:15PM
I just watched Fast Times at Ridgemont High for the first time in 20 years...somewhat like watching Happy Days years ago..well except for the R rated parts.



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: rz
Date: August 22, 2021 04:38PM
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jdc
"Classic Rock" station here throws in plenty of early/mid 80s stuff. pfft.

My pickup doesn't have XM, so I have to listen to the regular radio when I drive it. There are two stations playing "rock". One is hard rock, the other "classic" rock. For them, "classic" means Bon Jovi, Def Leppard and G&R. Ugh.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: PeterB
Date: August 22, 2021 05:23PM
Simply tell said teenager: "Just wait, and in another 30 years, YOUR music will be considered 'oldies'." old fogey smiley

Problem solved. grinning smiley




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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 22, 2021 05:46PM
Did she know that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?


I remember a very similar line from some movie where an adult mentions McCartney, and some kid responds with something about him being in that 'old group, Wings'.

Made me laugh.





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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 22, 2021 06:00PM
Paul's getting belly laffs with this...he's worth $1.2 Billion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 22, 2021 06:21PM
You could reply that an angry person speaking a poem synced to the sounds from someone manipulating a computer keyboard copying someone else's intellectual property isn't music at all.



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 22, 2021 06:50PM
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raz
Did she know that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?

Good one Billy!
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 22, 2021 06:52PM
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hal
When I was a kid in 1975, anything from 1955 was an oldie, anything from 1945 was positively ANCIENT!

Anything from the 50s was your parents' music. That was bad (and not in a good way.)
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 22, 2021 07:12PM
What we think of as "oldies" are now more like "moldies."



It is what it is.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Don C
Date: August 22, 2021 08:18PM
I remember noticing when I saw an antique plate on a VW bug WAY before I thought that should be the case.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: August 22, 2021 10:08PM
Out on the road today
I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac
A little voice inside my head said
“Don't look back, you can never look back”
I thought I knew what love was, what did I know?
Those days are gone forever
I should just let them go but...
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 22, 2021 11:02PM
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cbelt3
Out on the road today
I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac
A little voice inside my head said
“Don't look back, you can never look back”
I thought I knew what love was, what did I know?
Those days are gone forever
I should just let them go but...

Which is an oldie!
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: bazookaman
Date: August 23, 2021 06:31AM
I have an oldies playlist that we listened to on our trip to FL. True Faith by New Order popped up and my wife was like "Thats not an OLDIE!!!". I said sweetie, it's 30 years old!

When I was younger and referred to my dad's music as "oldies" he always corrected me and said they weren't oldies, they were "timeless".



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 23, 2021 07:35AM
New Order's first singles were 40 years ago now, well over a generation old. Definitely "oldies."
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: freeradical
Date: August 23, 2021 09:55AM
The Beatles early music is definitely "oldies".

Not their later stuff.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 23, 2021 11:54AM
Well, if you think about it, if you were a teen in the 70s, 30 year old pop music would be Big Band WWII era music. smiley-shocked003

For a teen today, 30 year old music would be 90s music; Backstreet Boys, Hootie & The Blowfish, Britney Spears, Pearl Jam etc.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: August 23, 2021 12:10PM
Rap music is now 40 years old. That makes the early numbers as distanced as Benny Goodman hits were then in the early 80's.

Those rap guys are OLD, man.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 23, 2021 12:27PM
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DeusxMac
Well, if you think about it, if you were a teen in the 70s, 30 year old pop music would be Big Band WWII era music. smiley-shocked003

For a teen today, 30 year old music would be 90s music; Backstreet Boys, Hootie & The Blowfish, Britney Spears, Pearl Jam etc.

So... Backstreet Boys = Frank Sinatra?

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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 23, 2021 12:29PM
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Steve G.
Rap music is now 40 years old. That makes the early numbers as distanced as Benny Goodman hits were then in the early 80's.

Those rap guys are OLD, man.

I was thinking about this recently. Rap is now the same age that rock was when rap began to supplant it as the most popular genre of American pop music. This gives me hope that something will come along soon to begin the process all over again and relegate rap music to has-been status.



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: rz
Date: August 23, 2021 03:32PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
This gives me hope that something will come along soon to begin the process all over again and relegate rap music to has-been status.

I am so waiting for that day...
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: rich in distress
Date: August 23, 2021 03:35PM
EDM has been here for a while, but rap is staying where it is. Rock and Roll too.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 23, 2021 04:09PM
Rap/hip-hop has evolved a lot but you wouldn't know it from the dreck you hear that's popular. Same deal with pop-rock/top40. And don't even mention that nasalified drivel passed off as country music.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 23, 2021 04:43PM
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mrbigstuff
Rap/hip-hop has evolved a lot but you wouldn't know it from the dreck you hear that's popular. Same deal with pop-rock/top40. And don't even mention that nasalified drivel passed off as country music.

I fully agree that there is lots of great rap/hip-hop -- really deep, thought-provoking stuff and great beats to boot. It just doesn't seem to be as well represented in American culture as the more banal end of the genre's spectrum.

With few exceptions, country music died in the early '80s (God bless Willie, though, and has anybody listened to the new Sturgill Simpson album?). The pablum that is bro-country music won't even be dignified with an acknowledgement here.



It is what it is.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: blooz
Date: August 23, 2021 10:56PM
Back in the late seventies. I was singing "Chantilly Lace" to myself at work and this young guy I worked with asked what was that weird song. I said it was by the Big Bopper, you know, died in the plane with Richie Valens and Buddy Holly? In 1959? He said, I wasn't born yet and walked away.



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 24, 2021 12:03PM
Addendum:

70s music is now half a century old for a teen of today.

If you were a teen in the 70s, your equivalent would be music from the 1920s.
7 minutes of samples: [www.youtube.com]
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: August 24, 2021 12:24PM
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DeusxMac
Addendum:

70s music is now half a century old for a teen of today.

If you were a teen in the 70s, your equivalent would be music from the 1920s.
7 minutes of samples: [www.youtube.com]

Except that 120bpm and 4/4 time in 1970 and 2021 are very similar when it comes to bass, guitar and drums.
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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 24, 2021 12:38PM
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mrbigstuff
Quote
DeusxMac
Addendum:

70s music is now half a century old for a teen of today.

If you were a teen in the 70s, your equivalent would be music from the 1920s.
7 minutes of samples: [www.youtube.com]

Except that 120bpm and 4/4 time in 1970 and 2021 are very similar when it comes to bass, guitar and drums.

You are both correct.



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Re: I just heard a teenager refer to 90's music as the "Oldies"
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 24, 2021 03:41PM
It is since any 90s music is a minimum of 21 years old.



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