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Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: p8712
Date: August 25, 2021 06:10PM
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Porn star Ron Jeremy has been indicted on more than 30 counts of sexual assault involving 21 women over the past two decades, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office announced Wednesday.
Jeremy, whose legal last name is Hyatt, is accused of sexually assaulting the women over a 23-year span between 1996 and 2019, according to the district attorney's office. The victims range in age from 15 to 51.
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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 25, 2021 06:26PM
I have nothing against the industry, as long as everything is legal and consensual. Ron wasn't either. He is creepy as hell.



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: DP
Date: August 25, 2021 07:48PM
I think it's interesting-Ron Jeremy notwithstanding-that prostitution is illegal but porn is legal; porn stars are paid to have sex (prostitution) and willingly provide the evidence!





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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Rolando
Date: August 25, 2021 07:55PM
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Racer X
I have nothing against the industry, as long as everything is legal and consensual. Ron wasn't either. He is creepy as hell.

You forgot the #guiltyuntilproveninnocent ! But you've got nothing against the industry...



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Buzz
Date: August 25, 2021 08:24PM
I don't follow the industry at all, but it seems to me that Ron Jeremy would be an easy, if not inviting target for these sorts of charges.....
real, or concocted.
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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: p8712
Date: August 25, 2021 08:26PM
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Buzz
I don't follow the industry at all, but it seems to me that Ron Jeremy would be an easy, if not inviting target for these sorts of charges.....
real, or concocted.
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I’m not sure a 14-year-old and 15-year-old would decide to go after him, though.
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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 26, 2021 01:25AM
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DP
I think it's interesting-Ron Jeremy notwithstanding-that prostitution is illegal but porn is legal; porn stars are paid to have sex (prostitution) and willingly provide the evidence!

Hypocrisy R Us!
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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: August 26, 2021 03:10AM
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Racer X
I have nothing against the industry, as long as everything is legal and consensual.

In professionally-made adult films, it is. Traci Lords deliberately lying about her age to work in porn and then announcing how old she really was when she turned 18 so all her adult films would become illegal and disappear showed porn studios how vulnerable they could be, and measures were put in place to prevent something like that happening again.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Also, the accusations against Ron date from 1996 until 2019, and unless I'm much mistaken that's a while after he was active in the adult film industry.

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Ron wasn't either. He is creepy as hell.

Ehhh, none of us are apt to look our best in an orange prison uniform at the age of 68. Back when Ron started out in the 70s, he was more than reasonably attractive in a burly, "bear" kind of way. At least he owns his past and makes no pretenses about it nor apologies for it, unlike some former adult film actors who make absurd and unbelievable videos about how they were "tricked" into doing adult films (you'd think getting asked to disrobe completely and get aroused to completion during their first audition might have given them at least a tiny clue what was going on), and finally managed to "escape" the adult film industry (all they had to do was get a regular job and stop accepting bookings), all the while claiming to have been "one of the biggest adult film stars of their day" even though their names, faces, and any films they were in draw complete blanks on recollection.

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I think it's interesting-Ron Jeremy notwithstanding-that prostitution is illegal but porn is legal; porn stars are paid to have sex (prostitution) and willingly provide the evidence!

Hypocrisy R Us!

Yep, Family Guy commented on that exact conundrum some time ago-

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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 26, 2021 04:59AM
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DP
I think it's interesting-Ron Jeremy notwithstanding-that prostitution is illegal but porn is legal; porn stars are paid to have sex (prostitution) and willingly provide the evidence!

Adult films fall under the first amendment. It is a performance and therefore considered a form of speech. Prostitution is strictly an exchange of material for gain and can therefore be regulated.



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 26, 2021 10:09AM
Back when Ron started out in the 70s, he was more than reasonably attractive in a burly, "bear" kind of way.


That may be, but I found this bit from Wikipedia amusing:

One joke that made the rounds within the industry at the time was "the kinkier acts some actresses would not perform were bestiality, sado-masochism, and sex with Jeremy" because he had an atypical appearance for a porn star.

He was on a show Surreal Life, I think, with a bunch of has-been stars of some nature.

Among them were Tammy Faye Baker, and I think Eric Estrada.

He was actually a pretty funny guy.

He cajoled Tammy Faye into kissing him on the cheek, but when she made her move he turned his head and she kissed him on the lips.

She thought it was funny and everybody got a laugh.

Until Jeremy told her that he had made over 1,500 adult films.

She practically threw up, and lapsed into a crying jag.





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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: testcase
Date: August 26, 2021 01:17PM
"You forgot the #guiltyuntilproveninnocent ! But you've got nothing against the industry..."

That ALONG with the abandonment of "Statute of Limitation" laws (when convenient for the female who's hoping for a BIG payday years (and even decades) AFTER the alleged incident are BULLSHITE. angry villagers smiley
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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: August 26, 2021 02:01PM
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That ALONG with the abandonment of "Statute of Limitation" laws (when convenient for the female who's hoping for a BIG payday years (and even decades) AFTER the alleged incident are BULLSHITE. angry villagers smiley

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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: August West
Date: August 26, 2021 07:06PM
Woo Hoo, we got the welfare queen scenario vs. punishing sex criminals in this thread!! Throw in a little misogyny, some calling @#$%& on counter measures against abuse, and we've got the conservative he-man brigade on the scene to prevent any injustices to all the male victims in our society!



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: August 26, 2021 11:42PM
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August West
Woo Hoo, we got the welfare queen scenario vs. punishing sex criminals in this thread!!

To which "sex criminal" do you refer? Ron Jeremy has been accused of 30 counts of sexual assault by 21 women over a 23 year period from 1996 to 2019, but he has not yet been tried OR convicted, nor have the specific charges even been made public yet.

Doesn't it seem strange if not a little too convenient that all these women decided to come forward with all these charges, some dating back 25 years, at once? The obvious question to ask is "Why all of them at once, and why right now instead of years ago in the older instances?".

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Throw in a little misogyny,

Do you react as strongly to instances of a little misandry? Good for the goose is good for the gander too, you know.

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some calling @#$%& on counter measures against abuse, and we've got the conservative he-man brigade on the scene to prevent any injustices to all the male victims in our society!

If by "conservative he-man brigade" you mean rational adults who place more value on cold, hard, verifiable facts than on instantaneous and often biased emotional reactions, then you're absolutely right.



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: RgrF
Date: August 26, 2021 11:50PM
Could we all just settle for Ron Jeremy is or once was a pig?
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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: freeradical
Date: August 26, 2021 11:54PM
What was Ron Jeremy's best movie?

Did he win any AVN awards?
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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: August 26, 2021 11:56PM
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RgrF
Could we all just settle for Ron Jeremy is or once was a pig?

I neither agree nor disagree. One's "pig" status is in the eye of the individual beholder-





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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Racer X
Date: August 27, 2021 04:58AM
I saw one of his earlier ones where he felated himself. Far less gut back then. Same movie the african-american kid John Bailey from Wonderbug was in. On a plantation?



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 27, 2021 05:15AM
Convicted or not, at least with Jeremy you could expect some deviant behavior unlike say another rapist who portrayed a friendly dad like Bill Cosby.

Neither one should get a pass (assuming Jeremy is guilty).

Still I am bothered when charges from decades ago are suddenly brought up.



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: August 27, 2021 06:56AM
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Doesn't it seem strange if not a little too convenient that all these women decided to come forward with all these charges, some dating back 25 years, at once?

If you do a little Googling, you'll find public accusations of sexual misconduct dating back to at least the 1990s. He was banned from attending various industry events because of accusations of sexual assaults/groping. He has also been sued for sexual assault.

Prosecutors were investigating some of these cases over a decade ago and some charges were announced in June last year after allegations of a series of rapes and sexual assaults across six years at the same Hollywood bar were leaked to the general public.

The real question is, "Why did it take so long for the prosecutors to act?"



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 27, 2021 10:16AM
Could we all just settle for Ron Jeremy is or once was a pig?


Well, I've heard he was referred to as 'the hedgehog' within the industry.





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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: SteveO
Date: August 27, 2021 10:35AM
Epstein is another example of complaints lodged in a timely manner and completely mishandled by LE. And some complaints there were lodged much later. Just because a complaint came 5 or 15 or 25 years later does not make it suspect. Many times, the victims are too traumatized to deal with what happened, let alone face their assailants in a court, and/or worry about retribution in all its forms.

A few quick stats:
- 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced some form of physical violence by an intimate partner. This includes a range of behaviors (e.g. slapping, shoving, pushing) and in some cases might not be considered "domestic violence." 1

- 1 in 7 women and 1 in 25 men have been injured by an intimate partner.1

- 1 in 10 women have been raped by an intimate partner. Data is unavailable on male victims.

Those stats are pretty conservative vs some others I found from WHO which estimates that 1 in 3 women worldwide have been physically or sexually assaulted.

I agree, all parties are innocent until proven guilty but let's also not prejudge the accusers by throwing shade on them. And yes, there are examples of false accusations which are also tragic on a number of levels. People are messed up. That's why we have a court system for all this, imperfect as the system is.
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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: August West
Date: August 27, 2021 06:18PM
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If by "conservative he-man brigade" you mean...

What I mean is the many azzwipes whose first instincts consider women suspect, rather than demonstrating an intellect capable of understanding that women have been in a subordinate, far too often abused, position to men for many, many generations.



Apologies to the anonymous forum member affected by my previous sig pic. It was my personal pic of a country expressing great grief as their leader, one of the most recognized people in the world, lay on his deathbed 8 years ago, days before he died. Like a naif, I did not realize it was offensively political, I considered it an expression of deep emotion and a reminder of the mortal coil's nature; that we all, great and small, can only hope to make a difference in our short time here, no matter the personal cost.

I'll post another pic from my work in South Africa that is, hopefully, apolitical.

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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: August 28, 2021 03:23AM
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If by "conservative he-man brigade" you mean rational adults who place more value on cold, hard, verifiable facts than on instantaneous and often biased emotional reactions, then you're absolutely right.

What I mean is the many azzwipes whose first instincts consider women suspect, rather than demonstrating an intellect capable of understanding that women have been in a subordinate, far too often abused, position to men for many, many generations.
So saying "Prove it" when charges are brought, especially years after the alleged crime(s) occurred, is now a bad thing? Should "guilty until proven innocent" become the law of the land and the phrase "Because I said so" now be considered valid and inarguable testimony?



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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: August West
Date: August 28, 2021 09:59PM
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That ALONG with the abandonment of "Statute of Limitation" laws (when convenient for the female who's hoping for a BIG payday years (and even decades) AFTER the alleged incident are BULLSHITE.

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So saying "Prove it" when charges are brought, especially years after the alleged crime(s) occurred, is now a bad thing?


Please try not to set up a strawman. No one I know has a problem with charges bring proven in a court of law, rather, a large segment of society has a big problem with the historic and continued abuse of women. So much so that legislation has passed in hopes of calling more abusers to account. Yet, the continued diminishment of women remains on display in this very thread and the best you can do is ask me about misandry? All those poor abused men out there? It would be entirely laughable, except to the survivors of sexual abuse, their families, and those who have witnessed their suffering.



Apologies to the anonymous forum member affected by my previous sig pic. It was my personal pic of a country expressing great grief as their leader, one of the most recognized people in the world, lay on his deathbed 8 years ago, days before he died. Like a naif, I did not realize it was offensively political, I considered it an expression of deep emotion and a reminder of the mortal coil's nature; that we all, great and small, can only hope to make a difference in our short time here, no matter the personal cost.

I'll post another pic from my work in South Africa that is, hopefully, apolitical.

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Re: Ron Jeremy, adult film star, indicted on rape and other sexual assault charges
Posted by: Sarcany
Date: August 28, 2021 11:00PM
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Thrift Store Scott
So saying "Prove it" when charges are brought, especially years after the alleged crime(s) occurred, is now a bad thing? Should "guilty until proven innocent" become the law of the land and the phrase "Because I said so" now be considered valid and inarguable testimony?

Did someone in this thread say that he was guilty of these alleged crimes?

I must have missed that. Would you please point out who wrote that and where.



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