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sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 17, 2021 10:11AM
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Re: sear'd into your memory?!....end of an era, as last 'Sears' store closing......
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Date: September 17, 2021 10:50AM
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Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 17, 2021 11:24AM
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Posted by: OWC Jamie
Date: September 17, 2021 11:39AM
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Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 17, 2021 12:17PM
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Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: Rolando
Date: September 17, 2021 12:49PM
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Paul F.
Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 17, 2021 12:54PM
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Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 17, 2021 01:24PM
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Paul F.
Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: p8712
Date: September 17, 2021 01:28PM
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Paul F.
Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.[/quote
They owned an Internet service. Remember prodigy? Also bank. Also everything else.]
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: September 17, 2021 01:33PM
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Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
They did. BUT, people paid no taxes on internet purchases vs brick & mortar. Sears couldn't compete with that. Plus Amazon's free shipping for purchases over a certain amount. By the time they forced Amazon to collect taxes, game was over.
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 17, 2021 01:42PM
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Paul F.
One of us is missing the point here, and I'm not sure which...
Instead of CLOSING their catalog sales division, they could have converted it to BE Amazon before Amazon was Amazon... They had already DONE the hardest parts - they just needed a team (a big, smart one, sure...) to turn their catalog into a web site.
They'd only have been competing with themselves - remember, we're talking about 1993 when they dropped the Sears Catalog!
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Paul F.
Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
They did. BUT, people paid no taxes on internet purchases vs brick & mortar. Sears couldn't compete with that. Plus Amazon's free shipping for purchases over a certain amount. By the time they forced Amazon to collect taxes, game was over.
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: Rolando
Date: September 17, 2021 01:58PM
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Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 17, 2021 02:00PM
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Paul F.
Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
They did. BUT, people paid no taxes on internet purchases vs brick & mortar. Sears couldn't compete with that. Plus Amazon's free shipping for purchases over a certain amount. By the time they forced Amazon to collect taxes, game was over.
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 17, 2021 02:03PM
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Paul F.
Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
They did. BUT, people paid no taxes on internet purchases vs brick & mortar. Sears couldn't compete with that. Plus Amazon's free shipping for purchases over a certain amount. By the time they forced Amazon to collect taxes, game was over.
That has been analyzed to death, the tax argument holds no water and never did.
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: freeradical
Date: September 17, 2021 02:16PM
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Paul F.
Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
They did. BUT, people paid no taxes on internet purchases vs brick & mortar. Sears couldn't compete with that. Plus Amazon's free shipping for purchases over a certain amount. By the time they forced Amazon to collect taxes, game was over.
That has been analyzed to death, the tax argument holds no water and never did.
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 17, 2021 02:28PM
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Paul F.
Sad...
At the dawn of the "internet age", Sears had an opportunity. They could have moved their catalog online and OWNED internet shopping the way Amazon does today. They had ALL the rest of the logistics in place. They had the ordering, the billing, the warehouses, the shipping, the returns logistics... ALL of it.
Instead, they shut down their catalog sales entirely. Dumped 100 years of experience down the drain. In the end, it was the equivalent of putting a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.
They did. BUT, people paid no taxes on internet purchases vs brick & mortar. Sears couldn't compete with that. Plus Amazon's free shipping for purchases over a certain amount. By the time they forced Amazon to collect taxes, game was over.
That has been analyzed to death, the tax argument holds no water and never did.
I agree. Mail order companies never charged sales tax to out of state customers unless that customer lived in a state that had a reciprocal tax collection agreement with the state where the mail order firm was based.
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: sekker
Date: September 17, 2021 02:50PM
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Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: JoeH
Date: September 17, 2021 03:43PM
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This is a classic case of the Innovators Dilemma - except, Sears literally GAVE away their advantage when they cancelled their catalog.
That was strange to me, even in 1993.
So why did they do it?
Walmart was eating their lunch...
Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: pdq
Date: September 18, 2021 09:30AM
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Re: sear'd into your memory?!....last 'Sears' store in company's home state of Illinois closing......
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 18, 2021 01:54PM
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Transfomco - still an Eddie Lampert operation milking the Sears and Kmart real estate for all its worth.
^ this. Vulture capitalist bleeding a once-great institution dry. Screw the employees - not my problem.