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Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 20, 2021 03:57PM
The Wyze doorbell is a bit underwhelming. What does the brain trust recommend ?
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: davester
Date: September 20, 2021 04:03PM
The brain trust here have likely tried between 0 and 1 doorbells per person so have no basis for comparison. Also, the various doorbells suit different requirements. What is your requirement? Much better to go to a valid review site such as Wirecutter or Consumer Reports.



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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: p8712
Date: September 20, 2021 04:39PM
My parents have had a ring for a couple years and like it.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: September 20, 2021 04:41PM
CBelt,

What about the Wyze Doorbell is underwhelming? I have a Ring and, aside from crappy wifi, it's been rock solid. Once I solved the wifi issues, no problems at all. Bonus is that it integrates with our alarm system.

Robert
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 20, 2021 05:30PM
IMO this gets into which video surveillance system you want to buy into. We use Ring and it works pretty well. The main thing I wanted was the option of having motion sensor floodlight cams. I figure a motion sensor floodlight is as likely to deter trouble as anything else.

But I also agree with davester, maybe its just confirmation bias talking. But nothing is bothering me so much I want to switch to a different system.



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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: September 20, 2021 06:05PM
The Eufy doorbell has gotten good reviews. Only reason I haven’t dumped my August is that Eufy doorbell doesn’t support RTSP. I’d like to be able to record to my NAS and not the cloud.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Spock
Date: September 20, 2021 07:05PM
Which large corporation do you wish to surrender your privacy to?



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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: DP
Date: September 20, 2021 07:41PM
As a side note, a neighbor got a Ring doorbell as a Xmas present. It was installed on the brick next to the front door and they can't use it as they can't get the signal to their phones. They were told they can't mount it on brick as it blocks the signal...





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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: September 20, 2021 09:39PM
DP,

Nope. You can install it on brick. Mine is installed on cinderblock. The ones at my parent's home is on brick. If the issue is blocked signal, then it's resolved by putting a wifi booster in the home, opposite the ring doorbell. Didn't need to do that at my parents house for the back door. Had to do it for their front door and mine. No problems at all once boosters were in place.

Robert
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: p8712
Date: September 20, 2021 10:27PM
Cinderblock here too. Works fine.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Carm
Date: September 20, 2021 10:29PM
We have used Wyze doorbell and Ring. Our Ring door cam works better with a wi-fi booster (Ethernet connected booster run outside, not chime pro) As a bonus it includes the alarm service for $10 month (yearly plan). Still also use Wyze for their sound detection (fire/co2 alarms, barking dog, etc)
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: September 21, 2021 12:04AM
We've had a Ring for several years. The response delay (10–15 seconds) is annoying and potentially nullifies the device's usefulness.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: modelamac
Date: September 21, 2021 06:14AM
I prefer eufy (Anker) cameras over Wyze. The eufy doorbell has 4GB local storage. All other eufy cameras can handle up to 128GB micro SD local storage. No subscription for cloud storage. They work with Home.app. 2K quality recordings. They re-connect reliably to my wifi after power outages. My several Wyze cams were not reliable in those cases.

Both Wyze and eufy iPhone apps work well on M1 Macs.

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The Wyze doorbell is a bit underwhelming. What does the brain trust recommend ?



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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: September 21, 2021 06:54AM
Article,

That's more of a your situation than an everyone situation. What you're experiencing doesn't match my experience. No delays. The only issue was WiFi and that was partially due to the weak wifi hardware built into the device and the fact that cinderblock and similar materials disrupt wifi. Combined it was an issue until I boosted the network right by the doorbell.

Makes me wonder... What steps have you taken to find the source of the issue?

Robert
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: September 21, 2021 07:10AM
Prior to the latest Wyze app update, it took much longer to load live Wyze video than the Eufy app did.

Eufy cameras reconnect automatically after dropping wifi, Wyze not so much. And it seems that having too many Wyze cameras on wifi starts to cause issues with the wifi. If I disconnect them, the issue goes away. Not sure if it's because of the cameras or the beta firmware that supports RTSP.

I only have on Eufy camera that drops for periods of time but it's in a shed with aluminum siding. The Wyze camera it replaced was even worse and would have to be physically disconnected from power in order to reconnect. The Eufy rejoins once the signal is adequate.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 21, 2021 08:29AM
I have a Ring Pro and had a Ring (non-pro) before that.

The pro has a much better camera. For example. our door faces east, and the morning sun would almost totally wash out the picture.

The pro did much better. The sun was still a bright spot, but the rest of the picture was clear.

Mine is installed on brick and I don't have any wifi issues.

I did have to replace it once when the super-capacitor died.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 21, 2021 09:25AM
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We've had a Ring for several years. The response delay (10–15 seconds) is annoying and potentially nullifies the device's usefulness.

Are you talking about the delay between pressing the button and the ringing of the doorbell?



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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: DP
Date: September 21, 2021 01:12PM
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Robert M
DP,

Nope. You can install it on brick. Mine is installed on cinderblock. The ones at my parent's home is on brick. If the issue is blocked signal, then it's resolved by putting a wifi booster in the home, opposite the ring doorbell. Didn't need to do that at my parents house for the back door. Had to do it for their front door and mine. No problems at all once boosters were in place.

Robert

A Ring brand wi-fi booster or any brand?





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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: September 21, 2021 02:31PM
DP,

Any booster ought to do it. I live in a pre-war apartment building and it disrupts wifi like you wouldn't believe. it's 1450 sq feet.

I had an Apple Airport Extreme as a main router at one point and used an Airport Express as a booster. Put one inside my house on the floor by the entry door. The ring doorbell was on the other side of the cinderblock wall. That did the trick.

Switched to a mesh networking system. Main router in living room. Satellite in the farthest side of the apartment and another where I'd placed the Airport Express. Works even better.

Robert
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: DP
Date: September 21, 2021 04:48PM
Thx, M!





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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: September 22, 2021 12:40AM
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What steps have you taken to find the source of the issue?

What steps could I take to find the source of the issue? The Ring app says signal strength is "good" (RSSI -65 dB) and device health is fine.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: September 22, 2021 12:42AM
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We've had a Ring for several years. The response delay (10–15 seconds) is annoying and potentially nullifies the device's usefulness.

Are you talking about the delay between pressing the button and the ringing of the doorbell?

No, the delay between someone coming in detection range and us receiving a notification of same.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: September 22, 2021 07:25AM
Article,

Part of it is the natural delay between the time the doorbell detects something and the time it takes for it to process what has detected. Nothing you can do about that. The rest of the delay could be due to a slew of different issues. One could be a weak signal despite what you see in the app. Could be slower speeds in that area of your home. Could be connectivity issues between the doorbell and the mobile application. Lots of different possibilities.

Any delays we had were resolved when I boosted the wifi signal to the doorbell. Ours is at RSSI -37 dB, which is significantly better than what you've listed. A signal you rate as good at RSSI -65 dB is what I consider mediocre and might not actually be sufficient and could be a factor.

Robert



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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: ArtP
Date: September 22, 2021 02:18PM
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As a side note, a neighbor got a Ring doorbell as a Xmas present. It was installed on the brick next to the front door and they can't use it as they can't get the signal to their phones. They were told they can't mount it on brick as it blocks the signal...

Another Brick Ring user - works just fine (but my Wifi is in 2nd floor bedroom off left of the front door)

I do have the delay issue but it is pretty arcuate most times. It detects when the postman delivers mail to the Front porch but will miss the guys that deliver the Val pack type thingees on the front porch (I think they are Ninjas).

I see in the app or web that it also catches huge trucks (cargo van or larger) driving down the street most times with a motion alert but have it dialed down the alert on my phone.

I just looked - today was garbage day - it missed most of my can being picked up and dumped (arm side load truck) but video shows it driving to my neighbors can and engaging.

UPS and FedEx porch deliveries have been hit or miss.
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Re: Ding Dong ! Which Doorbell Camera is best ?
Posted by: PeterB
Date: September 27, 2021 08:39PM
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Robert M
Article,

Part of it is the natural delay between the time the doorbell detects something and the time it takes for it to process what has detected. Nothing you can do about that. The rest of the delay could be due to a slew of different issues. One could be a weak signal despite what you see in the app. Could be slower speeds in that area of your home. Could be connectivity issues between the doorbell and the mobile application. Lots of different possibilities.

Any delays we had were resolved when I boosted the wifi signal to the doorbell. Ours is at RSSI -37 dB, which is significantly better than what you've listed. A signal you rate as good at RSSI -65 dB is what I consider mediocre and might not actually be sufficient and could be a factor.

Robert

Having spent a tremendous amount of time troubleshooting Ring reception issues, I can add to this that it also definitely matters whether you're using 2G or 5G and how many devices are connected to a given network or device. For example, if you're using a Chime Pro, do not connect more than two devices to it.




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