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need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 04, 2021 08:38PM
Like:
Bourne
Bond
Tinker Tailor
Ronin (Natascha McElhone, yeow!)
Hanna
MI 1
Nikita
Hitchcock
Atomic Blonde
Manchurian (1st)
Three Day of the Condor
not into cheap leading Hollwoo scores or bullets for the sake of noise


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Buzz
Date: November 04, 2021 09:15PM
The Manchurian Candidate (early 1960's rev, Frankenheimer still in diapers)
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Rolando
Date: November 04, 2021 09:20PM
Honestly, Captain America: Winter Soldier was a pretty good entry in the genre.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: wave rider
Date: November 04, 2021 09:23PM
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The Man Who Knew Too Little


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: steve...
Date: November 04, 2021 09:24PM
The Day of the Jackal, 1973

In the aftermath of France allowing Algeria's independence, a group of resentful military veterans hire a professional assassin codenamed "Jackal" to kill President Charles de Gaulle.

IMDd

Saw it many years ago but remember it being good.




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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: wurm
Date: November 04, 2021 09:26PM
I still find myself recommending No Way Out. Costner. Hackman. And Sean Young in her prime.
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 04, 2021 09:37PM
seen 'em all except Bill Murray and Capt America.
I think I'm done with superheros.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Buzz
Date: November 04, 2021 09:41PM
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I still find myself recommending No Way Out. Costner. Hackman. And Sean Young in her prime.

Yep, that was back when Hackman was literally in every movie that came out for a couple of decades running. Costner's American Flyers, from a couple of years earlier, has some suspenseful moments in it for a sports movie.
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Racer X
Date: November 04, 2021 09:41PM
Spies Like Us? It has Donna Dixon boink smiley


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: freeradical
Date: November 04, 2021 09:41PM
The Conversation - Gene Hackman is epic in this.
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Cary
Date: November 04, 2021 10:07PM
Three Days of the Condor
The Day of the Jackal
The Odessa File
the Mission Impossible series
North by Northwest
In Like Flint / Our Man Flint - tongue in cheek Bond from the mod 1960s
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: November 04, 2021 10:20PM
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Rolando
Honestly, Captain America: Winter Soldier was a pretty good entry in the genre.

Probably my favorite of the MCU movies.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Todd's keyboard
Date: November 04, 2021 10:43PM
My memory of The IPCRESS File was pleasant enough to watch it again a couple of years back. I was not disappointed.

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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: November 04, 2021 11:10PM
Bodyguard series
Breach (2007)
Bridge of Spies
Counterpart series
The Courier (2020)
Jack Ryan series
The Last Enemy series
Marathon Man
Occupied series
Secret State series
State of Play series
The Third Man

For humor… A Very Secret Service series



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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: bik
Date: November 05, 2021 12:16AM
If you might consider a series rather than just feature films...

Maybe something like

Bodyguard on Netflix:
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The Capture on Peacock
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 05, 2021 12:20AM
State of PLay UK was great.
Warrocker Trilogy also.
Coburn Flint stuff I still rec to millennials at work.
And Presidents Analyst.
Just dl'd Breach and Courier the other day.
Seen a lot of these.
Anyone seen Condor series based on 3 Days?


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: pqrst
Date: November 05, 2021 12:39AM
Alphaville Altho more of a detective film
OSS 117
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: apocketfulofwry
Date: November 05, 2021 02:31AM
The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 05, 2021 04:48AM
The IPCRESS File



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Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: November 05, 2021 05:36AM
'The Americans' on Amazon Prime. It's a series rather than a film, but falls into what you desire.

A pair of deep-cover Soviet spies masquerades as a typical DC couple whose children, neighbors, coworkers & friends are completely unaware of their activities. At home, they're the stereotypical parents of stereotypical kids; at work, they pose as travel agents; but at night, they weave a web of confidants, lovers, dupes, and historical figures from the Reagan-era Cold War.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 05, 2021 08:42AM
tried the Americans. Gave up half a season in. I forget why.
The Ipcress File. That may need a re-watch.

not that one has anything to do with the other.
Copenhagen on Prime is a film version of a play by Michael Frayn.
It's about the meeting between physicists Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg in 1941 Copenhagen.
It's interesting, science and history wise and well done.
It has an interesting twist on the history of bomb development at the time.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: ka jowct
Date: November 05, 2021 10:09AM
Hitchcock’s "Notorious". Great cast: Ingrid Bergman, Cary Grant, Claude Rains.
Also Hitchcock: "The 39 Steps"


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: November 05, 2021 10:20AM
Here's two that I liked by Robert Redford.

Spy Game

Sneakers


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: rgG
Date: November 05, 2021 11:51AM
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Fritz
tried the Americans. Gave up half a season in. I forget why.
The Ipcress File. That may need a re-watch.

not that one has anything to do with the other.
Copenhagen on Prime is a film version of a play by Michael Frayn.
It's about the meeting between physicists Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg in 1941 Copenhagen.
It's interesting, science and history wise and well done.
It has an interesting twist on the history of bomb development at the time.

We watched that just the other night and liked it.




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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: davester
Date: November 05, 2021 11:56AM
The Spy Who Came In From The Cold, with Richard Burton.


"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: davester
Date: November 05, 2021 11:56AM
The Spy Who Came In From The Cold, with Richard Burton, based on the LeCarre book.


"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: November 05, 2021 12:53PM
SALT, with Angelina Jolie
The Longest Kiss Goodnight, with Geena Davis and Samuel L. Jackson

I’d put either up with the Bourne films.



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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Racer X
Date: November 05, 2021 01:32PM
Quote
Fritz
tried the Americans. Gave up half a season in. I forget why.
The Ipcress File. That may need a re-watch.

not that one has anything to do with the other.
Copenhagen on Prime is a film version of a play by Michael Frayn.
It's about the meeting between physicists Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg in 1941 Copenhagen.
It's interesting, science and history wise and well done.
It has an interesting twist on the history of bomb development at the time.

The Americans, like many dramatic series, id very slow moving. I mean that literally. I usually watch using VLC media player, and set playback at 8% faster. Many shows end up far more watchable.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Diana
Date: November 05, 2021 05:24PM
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anonymouse1
SALT, with Angelina Jolie
The Longest Kiss Goodnight, with Geena Davis and Samuel L. Jackson

I’d put either up with the Bourne films.

That’s The Long Kiss Goodnight”. I need to watch that one again. popcorn smiley
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 05, 2021 05:42PM
reminded me of The Long Goodbye - Robert Altman.
Elliot Gould, Sterling Hayden. Great film.
The Spy Who Came In From The Cold, great one. May be time for a re-watch as well.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: davester
Date: November 05, 2021 08:57PM
For another oldie but goodie, Operation Crossbow with Sophia Loren and George Peppard.


"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 05, 2021 11:35PM
just re-watched Ipcress. Still good, stylized for sure, but well done.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: November 06, 2021 06:51AM
As series go, I’d definitely suggest giving The Americans another try. I rank among the best series ever. Right up there with The Wire, Sopranos, Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.

Spy movies and movies with spies
Movies
  • Man on Fire
  • Mission Impossible series
  • The Bourne series
  • I’m hearing great things about “Nobody”, Bob Odenkirk
  • Spy Game (Redford)
  • Three Days of the Condor
  • The Falcon and the Snowman
  • The Kingsman (Another humorous take)

Series
  • The Americans
  • Berlin Station
  • Rubicon (A ‘hidden gem’)
  • Sidney Riley: Ace of Spies (Near the top of my GOAT list)
  • MI5 (aka “Spooks”) Has one of the most heartbreaking scenes I’ve watched in any medium.’
  • The Sandbaggers (A classic)


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 06, 2021 07:57AM
Kingsman was brilliant. Rubicon should have been renewed. Good show.
MI5 was good the 1st 2 seasons, the it soap opera'd for me.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: November 06, 2021 10:56AM
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Fritz
Kingsman was brilliant. Rubicon should have been renewed. Good show.
MI5 was good the 1st 2 seasons, the it soap opera'd for me.

Definitely agree on the first two, wouldn’t argue the third. I can see what you’re saying, but I have slightly above mid tier tolerance level for soap opera in my shows.

“Pine Gap” might be another one to give a whirl. About the crew at a remote NSA listening station. You can kind of see “Rubicon” in its bones, and a swig of “Occupied”. Some soap, but it’s rolled fairly neatly into the intrigue.


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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 06, 2021 11:03AM
I thought Pine Gap was good. As I remember, seems like it need another season, like Rubicon.
And speaking of Australia. Secret City, with Anna Torv of Fringe (couldn't take that one).


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: November 06, 2021 12:30PM
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Blankity Blank
Series
  • Rubicon (A ‘hidden gem’)

Caution: definitely excellent, but cancelled after just one season; leaving much unresolved so you're left hanging and disappointed.
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: November 06, 2021 12:38PM
Kingsman was a lot of fun and Rubicon was brilliant.

I'm not sure Man on Fire doesn't go a little far afield of the original request but it was a terrific movie, one of my favorites, and one of my favorite Denzel Washington movies.

And slightly far afield, I just watched a PBS documentary, American Experience: The Codebreaker (AMZ).


This is truly fascinating and quite sad as well, but certainly worth the viewing.

[www.pbs.org]



I am that Masked Man.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: freeradical
Date: November 06, 2021 12:41PM
How about the 1987 version of Man on Fire starring Scott Glenn as Creasy?
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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Fritz
Date: November 06, 2021 11:15PM
"What the hell do you think spies are? Moral philosophers measuring everything they do against the word of God or Karl Marx? They're not! They're just a bunch of seedy, squalid bastards like me: little men, drunkards, @#$%&, hen-pecked husbands, civil servants playing cowboys and Indians to brighten their rotten little lives. Do you think they sit like monks in a cell, balancing right against wrong?"

but Oskar Werner really stands out in the film, as much as Burton was excellent.


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Re: need some espionage film suggestions
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: November 08, 2021 09:40AM
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DeusxMac
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Blankity Blank
Series
  • Rubicon (A ‘hidden gem’)

Caution: definitely excellent, but cancelled after just one season; leaving much unresolved so you're left hanging and disappointed.

I’ve learned to leaven the disappointment of cancellations by adopting a view of the shows as snatches of a really juicy conversation overheard on a bus or train. Unresolved, but still worth the hearing.. big grin smiley

“Man on Fire” I included under the loosey goosiness of ‘former spy’. An epilogue of sorts to one spook’s story. ;)


National Suicide Prevention Hotline tel:1-800-273-8255

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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