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Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: btfc
Date: December 04, 2021 09:25AM
“ Officials in Oregon are asking for public assistance to locate the person or persons responsible for poisoning eight wolves in the eastern part of the state earlier this year.

The Oregon State Police has been investigating the killing of all five members of the Catherine Pack in Union County, plus three other wolves from other packs, the agency said in a news release Thursday. “



[www.npr.org]
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: srf1957
Date: December 04, 2021 10:40AM
Wolf lovers trying to get peoples minds off the recent attacks . These all happed last spring . A wolf killed abound 6 goats last week . It was tracked by its radio collar/sat gps follower . ODF has killed about 6 this year for killing calves . And yes 1 wolf killed 6 goats at once ate 1 mostly liver 2. others just for fun .
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: Acer
Date: December 04, 2021 11:03AM
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srf1957
Wolf lovers trying to get peoples minds off the recent attacks .

Yeah, I'mma going to need to see some documentation on that.
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: SteveO
Date: December 04, 2021 11:50AM
Ditto Acer^
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 04, 2021 01:09PM
If these were pet goats, that’s very sad. If livestock, I imagine the farmer/rancher was reimbursed by the state or feds.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: PeterW
Date: December 04, 2021 01:22PM
Vivid imagination. Here’s the hoops the farmer has to jump through for the “reimbursement”. [www.fsa.usda.gov]
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: Acer
Date: December 04, 2021 01:29PM
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PeterW
Vivid imagination. Here’s the hoops the farmer has to jump through for the “reimbursement”. [www.fsa.usda.gov]

Hoops? I see information explaining the program, but few hoops. The relevant section is this:

"Livestock Loss Documentation
Livestock owners and contract growers must record all pertinent information (including the number and kind) of all livestock and those adversely impacted by an eligible loss condition resulting in either death losses or injury and sales of injured livestock at reduced price.
Owners who sold injured livestock for a reduced price because the livestock were injured due to an eligible adverse weather event or eligible attack, must provide verifiable evidence of the reduced sale of the livestock. The injured livestock must be sold to an independent third party (such as sale barn, slaughter facility, or rendering facility).

Documents that may provide verifiable evidence of livestock sold at a reduced price include but are not limited to:
• sales receipts from a livestock auction, sale barn or
• other similar livestock sale facilities
• rendering facility receipts
• processing plant receipts
The documentation for injured livestock sales must have the price for which the animal was sold as well as information on livestock kind, type, and weight sold.
FSA will use information furnished by the applicant
to determine eligibility. Furnishing the required information is voluntary; however, without all required information, program benefits will not be approved or provided."

Seems pretty straightforward. Not hassle free, but hassle-free is a bar nothing clears these days.

Anyone here actually done this, or know someone who has? How stingy are the feds with this program?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/04/2021 01:31PM by Acer.
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 04, 2021 01:35PM
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PeterW
Vivid imagination. Here’s the hoops the farmer has to jump through for the “reimbursement”. [www.fsa.usda.gov]

I read the flyer and see nothing overly burdensome.

“How stingy are the feds with this program?”

There is a price sheet included in PeterW’s very helpful link.



Saint Cloud, Minnesota, where the weather is wonderful even when it isn't.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/04/2021 01:37PM by Speedy.
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: srf1957
Date: December 04, 2021 02:15PM
oats found in Union County
By Paul Hall on Thursday, December 2nd, 2021 in More Top Stories Northeastern Oregon News

UNION COUNTY – (Information provided by the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife)

November 29, 2021 – Union County (Cabin Creek area)

Date Investigated: 11/29/21

Cause of death/injury: Confirmed (8)

General situation and animal information: The morning of 11/27/21, a producer found his goats had broken out of their night pen within a 44-acre private-land grass pasture; one goat was found dead and one was injured. The following morning, four more goats were found dead and two more injured. The goats were night penned on 11/28/21. The dead goats (2 adult females, 2 yearling females, 1 kid) ranged in weight from 30-150 lbs. One carcass was intact, 1 carcass had been entirely scavenged except for the spine and portions of the left hind and front legs, and the other 3 carcasses were mostly intact with scavenging on the abdomen and hindquarters. One 50 lb. female yearling had an injured right hindquarter and a second 50 lb. female yearling had an injured left hind leg. One 130 lb. adult female had a large open wound between her hind legs. The goats were injured/killed during two events, one estimated to have occurred approximately 36 hours and another 60 hours prior to the investigation.

Physical evidence and summary of findings: The five deceased goats were shaved, skinned, and examined. Tooth punctures 3/16-1/4 inch in diameter with corresponding pre-mortem hemorrhage and tissue trauma with depth ranging from 1 to greater than 2 inches were observed. Pre-mortem injuries were found on the throat, hindquarters above hocks, near elbows, and on the back. The three live goats had injuries to the hindquarters. One of these goats had at least two approximately 1/8 inch diameter tooth punctures on the right hind leg above the hock, and a second goat had an open wound measuring 3” x 1.5” x 1” deep just below the @#$%&. The size, location, and severity of injuries are consistent with wolf depredations. GPS location data places a radio collared wolf within the same pasture and in a 2 immediately adjacent pasture around both estimated times of injury/death. Both depredation events are attributed to the Balloon Tree Pack.

There about 6 different pack of wolves around . They don't stay in wilderness areas nearby because the hunting is better on private land for livestock .
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: btfc
Date: December 04, 2021 06:25PM
Responsible management sometimes requires the targeted removal of wolves who have a documented history of repeated livestock predation.

That’s not what happened here.
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Re: Eight wolves poisoned in Oregon
Posted by: srf1957
Date: December 04, 2021 08:16PM
Young elk hunters in. that area worried about their hunt . There is cattle ran in that area . No idea if it's right or nought . There was a predator control company offering to git rid of coyotes around Eastern Oregon . They said they had a helicopter that they could fly to shoot them . They supposedly killed 100 in the next county up . I think they probably guided idiots to shoot from copter for money . ! farmer could not afford the price of that much flying time . Besides snowmobiles the only resonably to get where they were at was by flying . And there is no ads for their service this year .
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