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We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: December 07, 2021 03:10PM
There really seems to be an explosion of electric boat builders world wide. I see a pretty cool example from Seattle, Zim Boats (pricy, for sure).

[www.zinboats.com]

I don't have much knowledge about the plug-ins, although I can see the market evolving like the electric cars, where an ICE vehicle will become obsolete in the near future.

Anyone here have any experience with the plug-in boats? I'm more of a cruiser than a speed demon. A pontoon boat would probably fit my needs.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 07, 2021 03:12PM
No, but dad had an electric trolling motor.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: December 07, 2021 03:19PM
I am waiting. Would love to replace my 2 stroke, and skip the four stroke altogether.

I also think it could be possible to diy a motor in thr next 5 or so years based on what I've read.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 07, 2021 03:29PM
Not relevant to the topic, but my next mower will be a zero-turn electric. I sort of appreciate the noise my snowblower makes because it helps me know that I’m bogging it down too much. Not a problem when I’m mowing.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 07, 2021 04:09PM
looks like a start. 35 mph top speed, not seeing any water skier photos, but would think it could easy enough?

Im not sure why we can have hybrids. Instead of 100 mile range, how about 75 with a 50 HP gas motor to make the range 200?

Same with cars. I see SUVs with 18 mile electric range... and a 300 HP gas engine. 18 miles is kinda useless. BUT 75-100 miles... now that is. Knock the HP down to 200 and bingo.





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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: voodoopenguin
Date: December 07, 2021 04:41PM
I have a riverside bungalow on the Norfolk Broads here in the UK. Locally there are several companies that have electric boats for hire, here's a selection of what is on offer.

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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: rz
Date: December 07, 2021 04:53PM
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Speedy
Not relevant to the topic, but my next mower will be a zero-turn electric. I sort of appreciate the noise my snowblower makes because it helps me know that I’m bogging it down too much. Not a problem when I’m mowing.

Almost bought one this spring, but the cost was 2x a 46" riding mower. I figure by the time it dies, the cost of the electric zero turn (I was looking at a Ryobi) will be closer to the gas powered ones.
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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: chopper
Date: December 07, 2021 05:06PM
My neighbor gave me his Honda lawnmower as he was moving to battery mower. COOL

He gets his new battery mower and the cut is terrible. This is a man who takes pride in his lawn. A lot of the grass was ripped more than cut.

He loaded the battery mower back in his truck, and fished around asking if I would consider giving him the Honda back ... I said ok.

He took the battery mower back and bought a new gas Honda mower and I have not heard a thing since.

Seemed like the battery mower didn't have the rpm that the gas did ... blade was Jack the Ripper level sharp.
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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 07, 2021 05:28PM
We have two neighbors who have walk-behind electric mowers. They both do a nice job on their 1/4 acre lots. They tell me they could not do a half acre lot on one charge.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 07, 2021 05:31PM
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Speedy
Not relevant to the topic, but my next mower will be a zero-turn electric. I sort of appreciate the noise my snowblower makes because it helps me know that I’m bogging it down too much. Not a problem when I’m mowing.

Almost bought one this spring, but the cost was 2x a 46" riding mower. I figure by the time it dies, the cost of the electric zero turn (I was looking at a Ryobi) will be closer to the gas powered ones.

We can afford the electric $ penalty. But my current zero-turn does a great job and it’s hard to justify making the switch by selling it to buy the battery model because we are only planning to be here another five years before we seriously downsize and go condo or apartment because we are old.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: December 07, 2021 05:42PM
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jdc
looks like a start. 35 mph top speed, not seeing any water skier photos, but would think it could easy enough?

Im not sure why we can have hybrids. Instead of 100 mile range, how about 75 with a 50 HP gas motor to make the range 200?

Same with cars. I see SUVs with 18 mile electric range... and a 300 HP gas engine. 18 miles is kinda useless. BUT 75-100 miles... now that is. Knock the HP down to 200 and bingo.

I can’t imagine riding in a runabout for 100 miles. You might have to trailer it to a power source if you are making a multi-day stay but for most users, 100 miles is plenty.

However, in the grand scheme of things, I think it would be nice to have an onboard generator in any EV (like in our Volt) but it wouldn’t need to be 80+ HP, I could get by with a five horse generator just to get me to the next power source. A lot less range anxiety if you know you can get to the next freeway off ramp to recharge at all those promised shiny new EV stations.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: December 07, 2021 05:46PM
Voodoo, that's what I'm talking about! Those look damn cool. Any idea on the range?



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: December 07, 2021 05:48PM
100 miles would be complete overkill for most outings unless you plan on fishing further offshore. But you need the horsepower to control the boat over the swells.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: December 07, 2021 05:50PM
I like the idea of having a generator or at least a hybrid boat, to keep from being stranded.

But if the boats can get the range of current electric cars, I will be all over it. The maintenance alone would be much simpler with an all electric.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: jdc
Date: December 07, 2021 06:38PM
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However, in the grand scheme of things, I think it would be nice to have an onboard generator in any EV (like in our Volt) but it wouldn’t need to be 80+ HP, I could get by with a five horse generator just to get me to the next power source. A lot less range anxiety if you know you can get to the next freeway off ramp to recharge at all those promised shiny new EV stations.

yeah, just using numbers. Agrees 100 miles in a tiny boat is waaaay more than enough. We had a 16" starcraft in the early 80s, 70 HP mercury, pulled us as kids easy, adults not so much. gas mileage was awful tho. And tanks had to be removed from boat. and pre mixed, and yuk.

Id take my car more Volt like, less Tesla, but not a prius.





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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: December 07, 2021 06:58PM
In Denmark and Sweden they're moving ferries over to electric and they're saving...boatloads...of money. Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Washington State is looking into it as well I believe, or at least hybrid ferries.
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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: December 07, 2021 07:30PM
Duffy Boats have been in business in So Cal for 50 years, churning out virtually silent electric boats.

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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Rolando
Date: December 07, 2021 11:14PM
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We have two neighbors who have walk-behind electric mowers. They both do a nice job on their 1/4 acre lots. They tell me they could not do a half acre lot on one charge.

I switched a couple of years ago. There are real benefits. The electric motor is MUCH QUIETER, so I don't need to turn my headphones as loud to hear my music as I mow. Its Basically an outdoor vacuum cleaner loud.

Also a gas mower it its single cylinder engine vibrates like crazy, compared to the electric, the gas just beats the @#$%& out of you.

Also, no gasoline smell, no pull start. I can't imagine going back.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Racer X
Date: December 08, 2021 12:03AM
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looks like a start. 35 mph top speed, not seeing any water skier photos, but would think it could easy enough?

Im not sure why we can have hybrids. Instead of 100 mile range, how about 75 with a 50 HP gas motor to make the range 200?

Same with cars. I see SUVs with 18 mile electric range... and a 300 HP gas engine. 18 miles is kinda useless. BUT 75-100 miles... now that is. Knock the HP down to 200 and bingo.

I can’t imagine riding in a runabout for 100 miles. You might have to trailer it to a power source if you are making a multi-day stay but for most users, 100 miles is plenty.

However, in the grand scheme of things, I think it would be nice to have an onboard generator in any EV (like in our Volt) but it wouldn’t need to be 80+ HP, I could get by with a five horse generator just to get me to the next power source. A lot less range anxiety if you know you can get to the next freeway off ramp to recharge at all those promised shiny new EV stations.

The definition of 1 electric horsepower is 746 watts. So you can do some mental math on an ICE for a charging system. No idea about power losses and system sizing. I do have a guy for that though.



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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: December 08, 2021 09:52AM
The Ski Nautique people released an electric wakeboard boat a year or two ago. They have been doing demo rides on the west shore of Tahoe the last 2 summers. The entry price is stunning. Last I saw they were around $300k, or three times as much as a dino powered equivalent.

There are certainly people around here that have that sort of money to throw around. My public school teacher retirement will not accommodate that. We'll continue to rent a boat a few times a season...

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Re: We Talk A Lot About Electric Cars Here... But Seemingly, Not Too Much About Electric Boats?
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: December 08, 2021 03:05PM
Whoa! Those Nautique boats are BADASS!!

My AAPL stock needs to run up a bit more before I'm in THAT league! smiley-excited001



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