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Did a something ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: December 11, 2021 03:45PM
Guns N' Roses - November Rain [www.youtube.com]


I used to think Gun N' Roses was just a bunch of loud noise. I wasn't impressed by any of their previous music. Then came November Rain with accompanying music video that depict a newlywed bride's life ending tragically. The band combined heavy metal with orchestral music with a video where the guitar player riff while standing on an expensive grand piano. For some reason, I found this to be incredibly cool. I gave their other music another chance and actually like some of it now.





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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: hal
Date: December 11, 2021 04:11PM
many times...

I really rebelled against pop music when I was younger. I dismissed lots of musicians because of my various preferences. A perfect example is Cyndi Lauper. I took her as just another frivolous pop singer singing dumb dance songs.

Then I saw the video concert: Tribute to Joni Mitchell. I LOVE Joni as a singer, songwriter and musician.

Cindi chose to do one of the most iconic and difficult Joni tunes of them all: Carey. And she nails it. I apologized to her (in an empty room) on the spot. I still have no interest in her songs, but I certainly respect her as a musician now.

[www.youtube.com]

I also dismissed Amy Whinehouse as a musician because I only heard of her in the context of dumb party girls like Paris Hilton etc. When she died I said to myself, ok - let's see what she's got and watched the first live performance of her I found. And I almost cried. I felt so bad for dismissing this amazing talent without even listening to her and now she's gone.

I don't do this anymore. I still have no time for pop music like Taylor Swift, but I no longer will dismiss them without first listening, and even then, I find a way to respect talent even if the result is a song that I don't like.
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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: December 11, 2021 04:15PM
I hated Frank Sinatra. A friend loaned me his greatest hits. I got hooked on “The Summer Wind” and one of the Jobim songs (“Wave”)and bought 22 of his CDs.



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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: December 11, 2021 05:09PM
Quote
hal
many times...

I really rebelled against pop music when I was younger. I dismissed lots of musicians because of my various preferences. A perfect example is Cyndi Lauper. I took her as just another frivolous pop singer singing dumb dance songs.

Then I saw the video concert: Tribute to Joni Mitchell. I LOVE Joni as a singer, songwriter and musician.

Cindi chose to do one of the most iconic and difficult Joni tunes of them all: Carey. And she nails it. I apologized to her (in an empty room) on the spot. I still have no interest in her songs, but I certainly respect her as a musician now.

[www.youtube.com]

She has an album of cover tunes that includes a great rendition (IMHO) of "La Vie en Rose."



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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: JPK
Date: December 11, 2021 09:37PM
Snow Patrol had a pop hit about a decade ago. I ran across this song recently and it opened my discovery of a very worthy musical group.

[youtu.be]

JPK
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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: Zoidberg
Date: December 11, 2021 09:43PM
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hal
many times...

I really rebelled against pop music when I was younger. I dismissed lots of musicians because of my various preferences. A perfect example is Cyndi Lauper. I took her as just another frivolous pop singer singing dumb dance songs.

Then I saw the video concert: Tribute to Joni Mitchell. I LOVE Joni as a singer, songwriter and musician.

Cindi chose to do one of the most iconic and difficult Joni tunes of them all: Carey. And she nails it. I apologized to her (in an empty room) on the spot. I still have no interest in her songs, but I certainly respect her as a musician now.

[www.youtube.com]

I also dismissed Amy Whinehouse as a musician because I only heard of her in the context of dumb party girls like Paris Hilton etc. When she died I said to myself, ok - let's see what she's got and watched the first live performance of her I found. And I almost cried. I felt so bad for dismissing this amazing talent without even listening to her and now she's gone.

I don't do this anymore. I still have no time for pop music like Taylor Swift, but I no longer will dismiss them without first listening, and even then, I find a way to respect talent even if the result is a song that I don't like.

A handful of articles I read back when talk about how Cyndi damaged her potential musical career by her association with professional wrestling; it turned her into a novelty act. I've always loved her vocal work (She's So Unusual came out when I was in HS and I've gotten most everything she's released since) and believe she was one of the great voices of the late 20th century.

Similarly, it was easy to dismiss Christina Aguilera as another pop princess, but there was something about her voice. I really paid attention when she just took over "Lady Marmalade" when her segment started. "Candyman" was a great throwback (if very adulterated) to the 40s style girl group. Her Back to Basics album highlighted her vocals in a great style of music. She has pipes, but basically stayed in the pop arena.



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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: December 12, 2021 01:02AM
Not a song specially, but a number of them performed by Amy Winehouse in Amy Winehouse: The Day She Came to Dingle.

I didn't have much of an opinion about her has I new nothing of her but the various online references about her drinking and drug use, and of course how a lot of people thought her dad was out of line and he should back off and let her die, if that's how she was rolling.

Seeing Dingle, I saw a very talented, unassuming young woman, making no demands, friendly, polite, and a brilliant performer.

Having seen this after her death, I was hit with the loss of a terrific talent, and really, underneath all the controversy, a very sweet being.

It was a saddening revelation.


I also dismissed Madonna as I thought here merely an outrageous perform, and not singer.

So not being a fan of performance art, I dismissed her pop music.

There was also a bit about Kevin Costner going backstage in her Madonna: Truth or Dare documentary where she behaves like a churlish diva.

She exhibited the same diva behavior on a Letterman episode, and Dave escorted her off stage.

So I had no love for Madonna.

Then I heard her sing Don't Cry for Me Argentina and knew she did her homework.

I was impressed and watched Evita and was really impressed.

Apparently she grew up when I wasn't looking listening and sounded terrific.


It was the same for Lady Gaga for me.

Way too much performance art which got between her music and I.

Then I saw her on some awards show, before the Oscars, Shallow, and A Star is Born, I think.

She sang two or three songs all standards, and was stunning in singing, performance, and appearance.


There are more, I'm sure, but those are some standouts for me.






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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: December 12, 2021 01:07AM
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Zoidberg
A handful of articles I read back when talk about how Cyndi damaged her potential musical career by her association with professional wrestling; it turned her into a novelty act. I've always loved her vocal work (She's So Unusual came out when I was in HS and I've gotten most everything she's released since) and believe she was one of the great voices of the late 20th century.

She was one of the era's great beauties, too, although she never played that card. I didn't realize just how beautiful she was until I first encountered this photo of her way back in 1985:



Another example:



And I think she looks pretty smokin' in this video (and that's SUCH a great cover of that song):

[www.youtube.com]


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Zoidberg
Similarly, it was easy to dismiss Christina Aguilera as another pop princess, but there was something about her voice.

Ummm... there's NEVER been any question that Christina towers over her contemporaries when it comes to singing. Never. I've always wished she would have decided to do an album or two of songs from the Great American Songbook, a la Lady Gaga - she would kill.



It is what it is.



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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: December 12, 2021 10:52AM
a bit off the op, but ....

"A handful of articles I read back when talk about how Cyndi damaged her potential musical career by her association with professional wrestling; it turned her into a novelty act. "

nope, that wasn't it. she was wonderfully pleasant during the record of her 1st solo record after the Blue Angel died. After True Colors, Cindi made a bunch of weak LPs. The fact that Miles covered Time After Time for a couple tours lends a whole lotta credence.

I first saw Amy Winehouse on the Jools show when Frank had just come out. She was incredible then and remained so. The saddest loss of a young voice in recent memory.

Madonna has surely made a whole lotta crap, but just for La Isla Bonita I'd never discount her.
But she was always about herself, from the get go.

I worked one of Gagas very 1st pro appearances just prior to her 1st release. Horrid stoopit song about clubbing all night. But wow, what pipes and attitude. I can't listen to most of what she does, but I'll always try. Also extremely pleasant.

I worked VH1 Divas shows numerous times when VH1 and MTV still were about music.
One show Donna Summer was a guest performer. I'd heard Donna all through my early years in recording studios.
I liked her, though the music was tiring at best.
When she sang the first notes at the rehearsal on this show, every one else hid. Her voice was incredible & under appreciated. Like Tina, Donna was one of the nicest pop starts I ever met.

I'd always wished Donna had done a straight R&B or RnR record or something in Tinas vein of pop.

I'm disappointed that the US never game enough airtime to Thea Gilmore, Amy Macdonald, Alison Moyet and others with ability and skills.

If you haven't, Margo Price, Courtney Marie Andrews, Yola, Shannon McNally, Noisettes, Evie Sands, Barbara Acklin, Arlo Parks, Adia Victoria, Alice Russell.
I really dug Sharon van Etten & Angel Olsen duet this year "Like I Used To".

2 I just don't get. Billie (especially after last night) & Killers.



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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: December 12, 2021 12:28PM
Donna Summer more than held her own on the duet she did with Barbra Streisand, which is saying a lot. Rumor was that Babs was miffed at being outperformed by the newcomer on that record.

I’ve never heard so much as one unkind word spoken about Ms. Summer. Everything I have heard indicates she was a genuinely good person. Her early death was a loss for us all.



It is what it is.



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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: December 12, 2021 04:01PM
JOMO, and I have a lot. Babs got nothing on Donna.
nuthin'



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Re: Did a something ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: prymsnap
Date: December 12, 2021 06:09PM
I considered the Bee Gees nothing more than pop/fluff (albeit extremely successful pop/fluff) until I saw the recent documentary about them. I have a newfound respect for them.
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Re: Did a something ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: JoeM
Date: December 13, 2021 07:02AM
I was asked to write for Bette Midler in the early 70s but turned the offer down because she had been doing campy performances at the Continental Baths in the Ansonia Hotel and I didn’t want to be associated with that while trying to get my own music out there. I became a great admirer of her talent in a short amount of time as her career took off.



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Re: Did a song ever change your mind for the better about a musical act?
Posted by: Mactel
Date: December 13, 2021 11:03AM
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N-OS X-tasy!
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hal
many times...

I really rebelled against pop music when I was younger. I dismissed lots of musicians because of my various preferences. A perfect example is Cyndi Lauper. I took her as just another frivolous pop singer singing dumb dance songs.

Then I saw the video concert: Tribute to Joni Mitchell. I LOVE Joni as a singer, songwriter and musician.

Cindi chose to do one of the most iconic and difficult Joni tunes of them all: Carey. And she nails it. I apologized to her (in an empty room) on the spot. I still have no interest in her songs, but I certainly respect her as a musician now.

[www.youtube.com]

She has an album of cover tunes that includes a great rendition (IMHO) of "La Vie en Rose."

This whole concert/album is wonderful and is on DVD as well. Here is "At Last" from the concert. Cyndi has some serious vocal chops.

As was mentioned, I changed my tune on Lady Gaga as well. When she first broke out, the meat costumes and theatrics just made me think she was going for shock value with nothing to back it up but I found she really does have a great voice as well.
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Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: December 13, 2021 01:42PM
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Mactel
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N-OS X-tasy!
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hal
many times...

I really rebelled against pop music when I was younger. I dismissed lots of musicians because of my various preferences. A perfect example is Cyndi Lauper. I took her as just another frivolous pop singer singing dumb dance songs.

Then I saw the video concert: Tribute to Joni Mitchell. I LOVE Joni as a singer, songwriter and musician.

Cindi chose to do one of the most iconic and difficult Joni tunes of them all: Carey. And she nails it. I apologized to her (in an empty room) on the spot. I still have no interest in her songs, but I certainly respect her as a musician now.

[www.youtube.com]

She has an album of cover tunes that includes a great rendition (IMHO) of "La Vie en Rose."

This whole concert/album is wonderful and is on DVD as well. Here is "At Last" from the concert. Cyndi has some serious vocal chops.

"At Last" is also on the album I referenced - in fact, it is the name of the album. I neglected to mention that the album is a collection of jazz standards covers: [en.wikipedia.org])



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