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New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 21, 2022 07:20PM
Duck Duck Go search returns this: this
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: January 21, 2022 07:25PM
Is it me, or does that look like something a 5-year-old would draw?
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Grateful11
Date: January 21, 2022 07:27PM
My first thought was 'Poopy Face Tomato Nose'.



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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: mstudio
Date: January 21, 2022 07:30PM
Is it me, or does that look like something a 5-year-old would draw?

You cracked me up, that's exactly what I was thinking.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 21, 2022 07:32PM
Well, the one in use since the '90s (80's?) would also not win beauty contests, would it?

I read something awhile back that said the new one should have things like working AC and brakes, not pollute like a gushing oil geyser, nor always sound like a continuous exhaust leak.

I'd call it progress?
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: mikebw
Date: January 21, 2022 07:33PM
I mean, it does look like a duck face.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: January 21, 2022 07:33PM
looks like something out of Pixar Cars.

They are being made by Oshkosh Defense at ~$35,000 each.



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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: rgG
Date: January 21, 2022 07:35PM
I think Duck, Duck Go is the perfect search engine for that thing.





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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Rick-o
Date: January 21, 2022 07:35PM
That's a lot of glass upfront. Fish bowl?



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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 21, 2022 07:45PM
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Rick-o
That's a lot of glass upfront. Fish bowl?

might be using left over airline windscreens? Lean it way back, I could see it.



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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: AllGold
Date: January 21, 2022 08:32PM
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Rick-o
That's a lot of glass upfront. Fish bowl?

Yeah, I bet it's expensive to replace if it gets cracked.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 21, 2022 08:36PM
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AllGold
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Rick-o
That's a lot of glass upfront. Fish bowl?

Yeah, I bet it's expensive to replace if it gets cracked.

Unless they are repurposed Mig 21 windscreens. There must be a bazillion of those floating around eastern Europe.

Actually, Nissan Cube glass?



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“A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.” Seneca the Younger

The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)

Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2022 08:37PM by Racer X.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Dennis R
Date: January 21, 2022 09:24PM
That much glass in the sun could make that AC work overtime.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 21, 2022 10:42PM
Should’ve been electric.



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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: RgrF
Date: January 21, 2022 11:08PM
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Speedy
Should’ve been electric.

The Tesla Duck, a new breed.
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Another DuckDuck link...
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 22, 2022 02:34AM
It's one of those OHMYGAWD! things to a lot of people like to grouse about, that will be yesterday's news after a couple of weeks deployment.

While I'm not usually That Guy who likes to make near-baseless predictions about something bad coming of New Stuff, I suspect all that glass would/will be quite a target for vandals.

That glass affords great visibility, though it looks like an excessive amount of glass, and I want to see the wiper system for it.

The low front would add to parking visibility, and possibly maintenance ease.



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Re: Another DuckDuck link...
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 22, 2022 02:50AM
knowing that they need to swing into and away from curbs in very close quarters sometimes, I can see the low and short nose has a purpose.



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“A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.” Seneca the Younger

The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)

Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: January 22, 2022 03:33AM
Yes, direct view instead of using the mirror(s) mounted on the nose of the current vehicles.



Fun fact #1: This is manufactured by Grumman.

Fun fact #2: It's parked near one of rg's side hustles.








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I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2022 03:35AM by RAMd®d.
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Re: Another DuckDuck link...
Posted by: rgG
Date: January 22, 2022 07:45AM
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RAMd®d
Yes, direct view instead of using the mirror(s) mounted on the nose of the current vehicles.



Fun fact #1: This is manufactured by Grumman.

Fun fact #2: It's parked near one of rg's side hustles.

Lol. I see what you did there.





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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2022 07:46AM by rgG.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Acer
Date: January 22, 2022 08:46AM
Low or no nose/giant windshield is a common feature of modern buses, that also spend a lot of time negotiating curbs.



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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: January 22, 2022 08:50AM
Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: January 22, 2022 09:28AM
USPS mail delivery vehicle drive cycle is tailor-made for electric propulsion...only one shift of relatively limited average range compared to other delivery companies.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: January 22, 2022 09:34AM
That thing is such a scam it’s mind boggling. Only 10% will be EV. It’s made by a defense contractor, who has contracts with the logistics company with deep ties to Louis DeJoy, the head of the USPS.

If anyone is interested in full-on conspiracy theories about this vehicle this video sums it up nicely

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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: tronnei
Date: January 22, 2022 01:35PM
Retrofit of 30,000+ post offices with electric charging stations has to be done. So they can't simply order all electrics right out of the gate.
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Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 22, 2022 04:44PM
tronnei and Bill are both right.



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“A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand.” Seneca the Younger

The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)

Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 23, 2022 09:56AM
Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 23, 2022 09:57AM
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tronnei
Retrofit of 30,000+ post offices with electric charging stations has to be done. So they can't simply order all electrics right out of the gate.

110v power would be all that is needed for most postal delivery vehicles. Not difficult nor expensive.



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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: JoeH
Date: January 23, 2022 10:03AM
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Speedy
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tronnei
Retrofit of 30,000+ post offices with electric charging stations has to be done. So they can't simply order all electrics right out of the gate.

110v power would be all that is needed for most postal delivery vehicles. Not difficult nor expensive.

But providing that power so that dozens of the trucks could be connected and charge overnight may require expensive alterations and additions of places to plug them in.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Speedy
Date: January 23, 2022 02:46PM
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JoeH
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Speedy
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tronnei
Retrofit of 30,000+ post offices with electric charging stations has to be done. So they can't simply order all electrics right out of the gate.

110v power would be all that is needed for most postal delivery vehicles. Not difficult nor expensive.

But providing that power so that dozens of the trucks could be connected and charge overnight may require expensive alterations and additions of places to plug them in.

They can tie into the panels used by the sorting machines that were removed. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

They have adequate power from the power companies on the pole next to the postal building, the one with the transformers, or ground mounted transformers in larger facilities. Otherwise, the power companies upgrade these for no customer charge. Installing uprated panels will cost in the tens of thousands. Then trenching/plowing in cable and installing outlets on posts, tens of thousands more.

The payback will be quick via lower fuel costs and lower maintenance costs. Also, less time spent filling a tank although that may be offset by the need to plug-in every night rather than gassing up once a week.

When the last design was implemented there was competition with a Diesel engine manufacturer (Onan, IIRC). The engine had to fit the standard truck as a drop-in. The problem with these was that carriers testing the models were complaining about the lack of cabin heat because the Diesel engine supplier had to use the existing heater core. The Diesel engine supplier offered to upgrade all heater cores but this wasn’t permitted so no Diesels.

My first apartment back in 1970 in suburban Minneapolis had a ring of 110v outlets around the perimeter of the parking lot. I suppose there were 80 to 100 outlets total per building. They were used to run engine tank heaters back when winters got cold. They were only switched on from 4am to 8am, IIRC, and they were popular. The lot had room for twice as many cars as there were outlets so competition could be fierce for an outlet. Fuel injection, ECUs and global warming made them mostly obsolete. Anyway, it can be done.



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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: JoeH
Date: January 24, 2022 10:34AM
Oh yes, it can be done for any given post office location. But then it has to be repeated for thousands more locations.
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Re: New USPS delivery van...
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: January 24, 2022 10:48AM
I'd think they'd want to add 240VAC, Level 2 circuits.

Still, those aren't rocket science...I'm sure 50A circuits would do fine given they can all charge overnight.



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