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Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: Fritz
Date: January 30, 2022 10:27AM
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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: steve...
Date: January 30, 2022 10:43AM
That'll buff right out.


Unfortunately, I suspect the only value left in this car is its VIN number, which will likely find it’s way to another car.

Didn't know this was allowed.





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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: January 30, 2022 11:38AM
That car came with a 428 Cobra Jet engine. I wonder what shape the block is in. The block could be worth a lot.

The unibody may be salvageable as it looks like a lot of the body panels weren't fully destroyed.
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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: January 30, 2022 12:33PM
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steve...
That'll buff right out.


Unfortunately, I suspect the only value left in this car is its VIN number, which will likely find it’s way to another car.

Didn't know this was allowed.
Officially it isn't, but there is a loophole. Simply moving that VIN plate to another car that already has it's own VIN number is highly illegal, a felony. Unscrupulous people will do this in order to turn an everyday base model into a fake version of highly sought-after limited editions.

However, brand new bodies are available for a handful of popular cars, '67 and '68 Mustangs for sure, possibly '67 and '68 Camaros too, as replacement parts for wrecked or rusted original bodies. Legally this is seen as no different than replacing a fender or headlight because these bodies have no VIN of their own.



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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 30, 2022 12:41PM
333 ragtop GT500’s made for 1969. Someone will try to save it or scavenge parts. It should be crushed, but probably won’t be.

I’d be surprised if the VIN tag survived. The last image from the auctioneer’s site is that part of the dash where it would be, and not only is it gone but so is whatever it was riveted to. Same for the underside of the front fenders, which would also have had the number.

None of that matters … the owner would know the VIN, and every Shelby registry in the last several decades also likely knows this car’s history and could easily cross/reference what happened should the VIN appear on a lookalike later.
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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: deckeda
Date: January 30, 2022 12:48PM
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Thrift Store Scott
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steve...
That'll buff right out.


Unfortunately, I suspect the only value left in this car is its VIN number, which will likely find it’s way to another car.

Didn't know this was allowed.
Officially it isn't, but there is a loophole. Simply moving that VIN plate to another car that already has it's own VIN number is highly illegal, a felony. Unscrupulous people will do this in order to turn an everyday base model into a fake version of highly sought-after limited editions.

However, brand new bodies are available for a handful of popular cars, '67 and '68 Mustangs for sure, possibly '67 and '68 Camaros too, as replacement parts for wrecked or rusted original bodies. Legally this is seen as no different than replacing a fender or headlight because these bodies have no VIN of their own.

I read that Ford was allowed a compromise for 1970. All 1970 Shelbys are leftover 1969 cars when Shelby quit the program summer of 1969. The FBI allowed Ford to remove the windshields and VIN tags, destroy them, and install 1970 tags. However, the fenders were not replaced and should reveal the 1969 VINs, identical to 1970 except for the leading “9” indicating 1969.
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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: January 30, 2022 02:29PM
This is not how you are supposed to do a burnout!



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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: Racer X
Date: January 30, 2022 03:26PM
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Thrift Store Scott
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steve...
That'll buff right out.


Unfortunately, I suspect the only value left in this car is its VIN number, which will likely find it’s way to another car.

Didn't know this was allowed.
Officially it isn't, but there is a loophole. Simply moving that VIN plate to another car that already has it's own VIN number is highly illegal, a felony. Unscrupulous people will do this in order to turn an everyday base model into a fake version of highly sought-after limited editions.

However, brand new bodies are available for a handful of popular cars, '67 and '68 Mustangs for sure, possibly '67 and '68 Camaros too, as replacement parts for wrecked or rusted original bodies. Legally this is seen as no different than replacing a fender or headlight because these bodies have no VIN of their own.

Correct. Legally, the vehicle identity is attached to the frame. If they do a body swap and transfer over the VIN tag, and the plate on the top of the dash, its OK.

I doubt the fire was hot enough to seriously damage the drive train. Maybe damage the alternator, PS pump if ordered that way, and carb. Rebuild the engine, and do a full transmission inspection, and change rear end fluid. Gut the brakes.

My little GS 350 has a seriously compromised frame, but if I do a frame swap, it isn't technically a Buick GS 350 any more.



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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: richorlin
Date: January 31, 2022 12:42PM
If you look at the photos on the auction site, the front end is worse than the rear. Looks like not much salvageable



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Re: Melted Muscle: 1969 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: January 31, 2022 07:28PM
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richorlin
If you look at the photos on the auction site, the front end is worse than the rear. Looks like not much salvageable.
The fiberglass fenders and hood used by Shelbys are burnt away, but everything else seems to be there. Clearly the car would require a "down to the metal" restoration and replacement hood, front fenders, and trim for 69/70 Shelbys might be challenging to find, but it isn't entirely gone.

I am more curious as to what made the skin of the trunk lid separate from it's inner bracing. The '69 and '70 Mustangs still used "drop-in" gas tanks, so maybe the tank exploded?



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