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Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 11, 2022 09:43PM
Someday I'll use something else. For now I'll just complain.

225MB software update....for taxes!



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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: SurfMacJpMtb
Date: February 11, 2022 11:24PM
Yes, agree completely



Long time Mac user
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: February 12, 2022 12:56AM
The Excel app takes up 1.97 GB in space on my machine.
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: gadje
Date: February 12, 2022 06:40AM
last time I checked, the 1040 form was free to print. and all you need is a pocket calculator, or you can even do the basic math on paper and pencil. Right?

oh wait, you want software that has the latest tips, tricks, advice, updates, nice GUI, complies with the lates laws, and sends the data to the IRS for you? Sure, that 1040 paper ain't gonna do it.

225 MB is what, some seconds of download on the most basic internet connection these days?
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: d4
Date: February 12, 2022 07:38AM
Glorified piece of rock.





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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 12, 2022 09:38AM
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gadje
last time I checked, the 1040 form was free to print. and all you need is a pocket calculator, or you can even do the basic math on paper and pencil. Right?

oh wait, you want software that has the latest tips, tricks, advice, updates, nice GUI, complies with the lates laws, and sends the data to the IRS for you? Sure, that 1040 paper ain't gonna do it.

225 MB is what, some seconds of download on the most basic internet connection these days?

If my tax info was solely contained on a single 1040 form I wouldn't be using turbotax. Obviously this falls into 'good problems to have'



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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: raz
Date: February 12, 2022 10:03AM
New rant

They wrote their own Save dialog. I can’t put the data anywhere but the Documents folder



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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: Wags
Date: February 12, 2022 12:31PM
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raz
New rant

They wrote their own Save dialog. I can’t put the data anywhere but the Documents folder

Can't you convert to PDF from the print window?
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: wurm
Date: February 12, 2022 12:48PM
Years back I gave up on the 'getting updated software every year' mode of doing taxes. Since 2017 it's been FreeTaxUSA. Yes, it's in the cloud, and no, I don't care.
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: raz
Date: February 12, 2022 01:26PM
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Wags
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raz
New rant

They wrote their own Save dialog. I can’t put the data anywhere but the Documents folder

Can't you convert to PDF from the print window?

This is for saving their database file



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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: February 12, 2022 04:01PM
I do TT online (free until you file) and Credit Karma (totally free) and compare results
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: kj
Date: February 12, 2022 04:07PM
Yeah, I've always done TT online, and it's mostly faster than I am (I should be more prepared before I start it).
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: Yoyodyne ArtWorks
Date: February 12, 2022 05:36PM
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Lux Interior
I do TT online (free until you file) and Credit Karma (totally free) and compare results

Excellent approach!



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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: PeterW
Date: February 12, 2022 05:59PM
As long as you don’t mind putting your entire financial situation on someone else’s storage device.
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: Yoyodyne ArtWorks
Date: February 12, 2022 07:00PM
I’m sure plenty of people have already stolen my identity, maybe they’ll have better luck with it than me.



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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: February 12, 2022 09:56PM
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Lux Interior
I do TT online (free until you file) and Credit Karma (totally free) and compare results

Have you found a difference in the output?

I should try that next year.



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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: Microman
Date: February 12, 2022 11:10PM
I use Turbotax, and Quicken.... I expect updates, as they improve and find errors. No way do I see TurboTax as a glorified spreadsheet. Just as I don't Quicken is a glorified spreadsheet. Quicken for Mac may not be as good as Quicken for Windows, but it is my favorite piece of useful software.
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: February 13, 2022 05:59PM
Microman,

Agreed. Although I don't use TurboTax or a current version of Qucken, there is no way I'd describe them as a glorified spread sheet. Far from. I wouldn't even call them glorified databases. To describe them that way dismisses the sheer complexity of what these applications do to complete their tasks. It's like saying an automobile is a glorified horse and buggy and a car is most definitely not that!

Robert
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Re: Why does TurboTax force you to install updates? How is it so slow even though its a glorified spreadsheet?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: February 13, 2022 10:51PM
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mattkime
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Lux Interior
I do TT online (free until you file) and Credit Karma (totally free) and compare results

Have you found a difference in the output?

I should try that next year.

Yes.

And my taxes aren't terribly complicated. I find it somewhat disconcerting.
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