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food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: February 22, 2022 03:09PM
.....the noodles [ believe it was chinese food ] had been purchased just the night before....

.......they discovered he had a bacteria in his blood called neisseria meningitidis, giving him the diagnosis of meningococcal purpura fulminans. Purpura fulminans is a rare complication of meningococcal septicaemia......no idea how it got on food but described as 'freak accident'.....


.....warning, the link has graphic pics.....


Man loses limbs after eating roommate's leftover noodles

....A 19-year-old man in the US lost his legs and all 10 fingers after eating his roommate's leftover food and developing an aggressive bacterial infection.

The man, who identified as JC according to a report in the New England Journal of Medicine, ate a chicken noodle dish his roommate had bought the night before and immediately felt unwell after.

The report said JC worked part-time at a restaurant, had not been travelling recently or had any other exposure to animals or unwell people, and had no known allergies and had received his childhood vaccinations and initially thought it was food poisoning.

However, he continued to get worse during the night, reporting abdominal pain and vomiting followed by the development of chills, generalised weakness, muscle pain, chest pain, shortness of breath, headache, neck stiffness and blurry vision.

Five hours before he went to the hospital, JC noticed purplish rashes on his skin. He progressively got worse and had to be transported from the intensive care unit of another hospital by helicopter for further treatment.

According to the report, when he was first examined at the hospital his temperature was 37.4C and his pulse was 147 beats per minute.

A few hours later it shot to 40.8C and his pulse was 166 beats per minute, resulting in him having to be sedated.

Fingers and feet developed gangrene
JC's kidneys had started to fail and his blood started to clot. The tissue on his fingers developed gangrene, as did his legs down to his feet meaning doctors had to amputate all of his fingers and below both his knees to keep him alive.

After receiving blood test results from the previous hospital JC was in, doctors discovered he had a bacteria in his blood called neisseria meningitidis, giving him the diagnosis of meningococcal purpura fulminans. Purpura fulminans is a rare complication of meningococcal septicaemia.

Doctors later discovered that JC had received his first meningococcal vaccine when he was 12 but he hadn't had the booster shot recommended at 16.

According to YouTube doctor Dr Bernard, even though this is a meningococcal bacterial infection it doesn't appear to be meningitis, which is the inflammation of the meninges, the membranes that protect the brain and the spinal cord. Instead, the bacteria flooded into his bloodstream.

Dr Bernard described the incident as a "freak accident".

"The evidence appears to point to the food being bad and that is a freak accident," he said.

"We'll never know exactly what happened to it to cause it to have neisseria meningitidis on it.".....



.......omg.......?!



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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: gabester
Date: February 22, 2022 03:35PM
Paging PaulF - how can this possibly be true?!

There are so many times I've eaten rice left out overnight... mind you it was Uncle Ben's minute rice, so maybe that's different / lacking the bacteria cited here as the root cause.

Nevermind, I think we have our explanation as to the source of the rice: [forums.macresource.com]





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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: JoeH
Date: February 22, 2022 03:52PM
I recall reading a similar report some years back, not a common result of the infection. But can be deadly if not treated soon enough.
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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: pdq
Date: February 22, 2022 05:18PM
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gabester
— how can this possibly be true?!

I don’t think it is (quite) true. The kid had classic meningococcemia - a widespread bacterial infection by neisseria meningiditis. This kind of “sepsis” causes the body’s immune system to freak out and all kinds of bad things to happen, and quickly - like, in 24 hours, like this case (in which case it gets the fancy name “purpura fulminans”, a shorthand description of the whole nasty assortment of things that happen)

It’s a little like being hit by a (microbiological) bolt of lightning. But it probably had nothing to do with the noodles. In fact, his roommate ate the same noodles and was fine. Actually, about 20% of people have this same bacterium colonizing their throat. Why don’t they get sick? I’m not sure anyone knows.

It’s a real tragedy, but fortunately rare. That’s (partly) why they give kids meningococcal vaccines these days. This kid had had only one dose.
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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: Racer X
Date: February 22, 2022 05:49PM
Thanks for the info. My partner is a MRSA carrier. Since it is only on her skin inside her nose, it hasn't caused issues yet. And I have never picked it up from her.

Some it could kill, others? dunno smiley



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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: deckeda
Date: February 22, 2022 07:25PM
I'm not clear on if the bacteria is rare or if his reaction to it is. I'm guessing the latter, but that doesn't explain why this didn't happen years earlier.
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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: February 22, 2022 08:04PM
Meningococcal vaccine... Haven't had that one.

Looks like it wasn't part of the std panel until about 2005.



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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: PeterB
Date: February 22, 2022 09:26PM
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Tiangou
Meningococcal vaccine... Haven't had that one.

Looks like it wasn't part of the std panel until about 2005.

I have, because it's a required vaccination for college students... with whom I was having frequent contact (until corona, of course).




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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: testcase
Date: February 22, 2022 10:57PM
"Man loses limbs after eating roommate's leftover noodles"


Maybe the roommate got tired of others taking his food................ barf smiley
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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: Janit
Date: February 22, 2022 11:04PM
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pdq
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gabester
— how can this possibly be true?!

I don’t think it is (quite) true. The kid had classic meningococcemia - a widespread bacterial infection by neisseria meningiditis. This kind of “sepsis” causes the body’s immune system to freak out and all kinds of bad things to happen, and quickly - like, in 24 hours, like this case (in which case it gets the fancy name “purpura fulminans”, a shorthand description of the whole nasty assortment of things that happen)

It’s a little like being hit by a (microbiological) bolt of lightning. But it probably had nothing to do with the noodles. In fact, his roommate ate the same noodles and was fine. Actually, about 20% of people have this same bacterium colonizing their throat. Why don’t they get sick? I’m not sure anyone knows.

It’s a real tragedy, but fortunately rare. That’s (partly) why they give kids meningococcal vaccines these days. This kid had had only one dose.

I took a look at the original article, published on March 11, 2021.

Three excerpts stood out to me, though they may simply muddy the water:

1) The patient had been well until 20 hours before this admission, when diffuse abdominal pain and nausea developed after he ate rice, chicken, and lo mein leftovers from a restaurant meal. Multiple episodes of emesis occurred, with vomitus that was either bilious or red-brown. The abdominal pain and vomiting were followed by the development of chills, generalized weakness, progressively worsening diffuse myalgias, chest pain, shortness of breath, headache, neck stiffness, and blurry vision.

2) On the patient’s admission to this hospital, additional history was obtained from family members. A friend who had eaten the same meal as the patient the evening before admission had vomited once shortly thereafter but had not become progressively ill.

3) Of note, during his hospitalization, we learned that he had received only one dose of the meningococcal conjugate vaccine, without a booster, and one dose of the serogroup B meningococcal vaccine.

It seems more likely to me that he caught the infection directly from the friend, or from someone else, and not from the noodles. A disease like this progresses rapidly, but it still takes time for the bacterium to reach levels in the blood high enough to cause symptoms.

And the "YouTube doctor Dr Bernard" quoted in the yahoo article is not someone I would rely on. I don't think he read the NEJM article.
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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: Diana
Date: February 22, 2022 11:04PM
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deckeda
I'm not clear on if the bacteria is rare or if his reaction to it is. I'm guessing the latter, but that doesn't explain why this didn't happen years earlier.

People carry a variety of bacteria/viral loads that don't cause illness in and for themselves. They have some immunity to it, or the bacteria load is too small to make a difference and is being held in check by other bacteria/virus. The problem is when you get stressed out or catch something more virulent. Your immune system goes down or gets geared against something else, and the baddie that was being held in check now can multiply and make you sick. The same thing can happen when you take antibiotics. They tend to wreck the digestive fauna, throwing the balances out, and then baddies resident in the gut can multiply and cause problems.

It could be a rare occurrence simply because it's normally held in check. The real question for me is not how he got the bacteria, but how the bacteria entered his bloodstream.
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Re: food for thought?!....college student loses fingers & legs after eating leftovers.....
Posted by: Racer X
Date: February 23, 2022 12:33AM
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testcase
"Man loses limbs after eating roommate's leftover noodles"


Maybe the roommate got tired of others taking his food................ barf smiley
well done there!



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Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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