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for the electric guitarist
Posted by: Fritz
Date: February 25, 2022 08:29AM
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: jonny
Date: February 25, 2022 09:43AM
He coulda stopped with the height of the pickup.
(edit... finished watching and that's pretty much what he says.)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2022 09:46AM by jonny.
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: February 25, 2022 10:05AM
The pickup is absolutely the most (but not the only) important component of electric guitar tone. The nice thing about that is, we are living in the golden age of quality cheap guitars, and you can very easily find a good-playing solid body for $100, drop in a set of high quality pickups, and have a monster of a guitar for very little money.

Bottom line, if you've got good (meaning playable) wood, you can fix bad metal. (insert Beavis and Butt-head snickering at your leisure.)
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: February 25, 2022 11:26AM
I've watched a few of these tests on YouTube and I have come to the conclusion that it's the amplifier. Sure, the pickup primarily and that gives you the basis for everything that comes after that signal, but even a cheap guitar can soundreally good through a nice amp.



Hurts like a bastid...
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: mikebw
Date: February 25, 2022 11:46AM
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mrbigstuff
I've watched a few of these tests on YouTube and I have come to the conclusion that it's the amplifier. Sure, the pickup primarily and that gives you the basis for everything that comes after that signal, but even a cheap guitar can soundreally good through a nice amp.

Indeed. I also like to add that louder almost always sounds better. Almost.
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: Fritz
Date: February 25, 2022 12:01PM
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Indeed. I also like to add that louder almost always sounds better. Almost.

I'd strongly disagree with that.
Years ago, when metal was peaking in the 80s, I had a young band with Marshall 50 and 100 stacks.
Either sounded like @#$%& to me. May have been leaky caps or sad tubes, but I don't think so.

I suggested they use my Fender Vibrolux for the solos, at least, at about 90db.
The guitarist, on a Travis Bean, liked the solo sound so much, they went back and cut the whole EP again with the Vibrolux for both rhythm and solo. The rhythm was augmented in tracking with my Roland JC120.
For the mix, I re-amped the solo into the studio, 30'x30' with 20' ceilings, at about 95db thru a pair of JBL somethings and a 122 cabinet. Picked up with 2 AKG 414s.

They just about peed themselves.

YMMD



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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: freeradical
Date: February 25, 2022 12:21PM
Red electric guitars sound the best.
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: rich in distress
Date: February 25, 2022 12:23PM
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: lost in space
Date: February 25, 2022 12:44PM
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mrbigstuff
I've watched a few of these tests on YouTube and I have come to the conclusion that it's the amplifier. Sure, the pickup primarily and that gives you the basis for everything that comes after that signal, but even a cheap guitar can soundreally good through a nice amp.

That's true, but the tuber wanted to know what matters when the guitars are plugged into the same amp.



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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: Kraniac
Date: February 25, 2022 03:34PM
Great!!!!!!!!! Love this guy..seen him before but never this one.

Complete agreement with Jimm, him...I';ve got a range of guitars...cheapo bodies upgraded with better pickups and some hardware for reliability and some pretty damn great stock classics..They all sound the same...good.
i get stuck on all of them for weeks.

It ain't about the wood

It's all about speakers and amps...speakers tho, make the biggest difference.,,,,no, wait!! Amps!!
Speakers...plus the players musical feel for the guitar..hands and brain... there's amps, too, tho. oh, and pickups..bigest differences tho? Speakers...no...wait!!!!

People are nuts on the guitar forums and those arguments? They try to smash you with everything they have....and then?

"We'll just have to agree to disagree"

which i hate...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2022 03:41PM by Kraniac.
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: JoeM
Date: February 25, 2022 04:45PM
I learned that many years ago when I bought a cheapo Fender Jazz Bass for around $275 and replaced the pickups with Seymour Duncans, then recorded it and my brother's original 1965 Jazz Bass.

After 56 years of playing and recording my feeling is player+pickup+pickup height+string gauge primarily determines guitar sound. The rest is icing or generally inconsequential.



JoeM
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: February 25, 2022 04:52PM
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JoeM
I learned that many years ago when I bought a cheapo Fender Jazz Bass for around $275 and replaced the pickups with Seymour Duncans, then recorded it and my brother's original 1965 Jazz Bass.

After 56 years of playing and recording my feeling is player+pickup+pickup height+string gauge primarily determines guitar sound. The rest is icing or generally inconsequential.

I need to learn more about pickup height. Is it just a matter of trial and error and listening, or is there a rule of thumb?
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: lost in space
Date: February 25, 2022 06:29PM
Trial and error works for me.



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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: JoeM
Date: February 25, 2022 09:35PM
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Will Collier
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JoeM
I learned that many years ago when I bought a cheapo Fender Jazz Bass for around $275 and replaced the pickups with Seymour Duncans, then recorded it and my brother's original 1965 Jazz Bass.

After 56 years of playing and recording my feeling is player+pickup+pickup height+string gauge primarily determines guitar sound. The rest is icing or generally inconsequential.

I need to learn more about pickup height. Is it just a matter of trial and error and listening, or is there a rule of thumb?

Will, this is a good explanation with a how to:
[www.seymourduncan.com]



JoeM
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Re: for the electric guitarist
Posted by: Will Collier
Date: February 26, 2022 05:52AM
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Will Collier
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JoeM
I learned that many years ago when I bought a cheapo Fender Jazz Bass for around $275 and replaced the pickups with Seymour Duncans, then recorded it and my brother's original 1965 Jazz Bass.

After 56 years of playing and recording my feeling is player+pickup+pickup height+string gauge primarily determines guitar sound. The rest is icing or generally inconsequential.

I need to learn more about pickup height. Is it just a matter of trial and error and listening, or is there a rule of thumb?

Will, this is a good explanation with a how to:
[www.seymourduncan.com]

Ah, thank you, I should have guessed.

I got to meet Seymour a few years back. Great guy, lots of great stories.
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