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Gas prices!
Posted by: lost in space
Date: March 06, 2022 05:36PM
I went out to run some errands this afternoon and was flabbergasted at gas prices here in E. WA. They've gone up at least $.50/gal in a few days, up to around $4.10. Now I see that California's are up to $5.00 or more, with Napa County highest in the state, averaging $5.46. Sheeyut! I've never felt so lucky about gas prices. It was expected, but it's so sudden. Probably not the end of it either. What's happening where you are?







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Posted by: Acer
Date: March 06, 2022 05:39PM
50 cents since the gas thread here earlier this week. Paid $4.19 today, Pittsburgh area.
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Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 06, 2022 05:40PM
About $4.35 on up here in Seattle. Looks like yours lagged ours by a few weeks.



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Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 06, 2022 05:41PM
....it is over $7 in some places in California......saw it on 2 news programs....



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Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 06, 2022 05:43PM
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....it is over $7 in some places in California........

That is flat out price gouging.



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Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: March 06, 2022 05:48PM
$4.95 in our corner of SoCal.
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Posted by: M A V I C
Date: March 06, 2022 05:52PM
Someone I know posted a picture last night of gas well over $5/gal in Seatac (city south of Seattle.) It's gone up by 60¢/gal in the last week, and about 85¢/gal in the past couple weeks.

We were driving through one small town outside the city and there was a Chevron at $4.19. We stopped and filled up.




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Posted by: p8712
Date: March 06, 2022 05:56PM
Wow. Glad I'm 100% electric.
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Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 06, 2022 06:06PM
It just went above $5 for regular unleaded. Some stations are advertising a price that is a quarter lower, but that is for E88 used by Flexfuel vehicles. People are filling up with it thinking it is the same as regular unleaded, just cheaper. The car runs fine for now but there will likely be problems if they use it longterm.



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Posted by: wurm
Date: March 06, 2022 06:08PM
Going to probably have to get some tomorrow. Might be worth a trip to BJ's for $3.96/gal.
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Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 06, 2022 06:10PM
It just went above $4 for regular unleaded. Some stations are advertising a price that is a quarter lower, but that is for E88 used by Flexfuel vehicles. People are filling up with it thinking it is the same as regular unleaded, just cheaper. The car runs fine for now but there will likely be problems if they use it long-term.



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Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 06, 2022 06:17PM
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Ombligo
It just went above $4 for regular unleaded. Some stations are advertising a price that is a quarter lower, but that is for E88 used by Flexfuel vehicles. People are filling up with it thinking it is the same as regular unleaded, just cheaper. The car runs fine for now but there will likely be problems if they use it long-term.

And E85 contains 27% less energy by volume, so you aren't saving anything, you are throwing money away and likely harming your vehicle. Toyota says anything over E10 is harmful to my Prius. MY old Buick will burn anything, but a high alcohol content will damage the rubber in the fuel system until I rebuild with silicone seals.

E10 is about a 3% fuel economy hit. They never tell you that. And that 3% hit really underscores why gasahol is a big fat fallacy here.



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Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Posted by: Markintosh
Date: March 06, 2022 06:32PM
We went from 5.79 Friday to 6.19 today and probably more as we go on....

Thankful we started the EV transition 18 months ago.

It's going to be tough to swallow any long distance RV trips this spring or summer...most of our trips are pretty short anyways.



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Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 06, 2022 06:35PM
no clue. i have a Volt. last bought gas in early December. Probably won’t need to until late june i think.



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Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 06, 2022 06:42PM
....well, electricity prices shot up too [ bill tripled ] so make sure to charge the EV at work, if you can, or charging station but not at home....



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Posted by: Speedy
Date: March 06, 2022 06:47PM
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....well, electricity prices shot up too [ bill tripled ] so make sure to charge the EV at work, if you can, or charging station but not at home....

I’m paying the same as last year for electricity for our two PHEVs. No change in a few years from our local co-op. But the nearby area is connected to Big Power and those folks are getting slammed.



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Posted by: Harbourmaster
Date: March 06, 2022 06:54PM
Gas buddy says $3.67 at Wally worlds pumps is the cheapest here in Myrtle Beach now.

I filled up the Odyssey at Costco 2 weeks ago for $3.19/gal!



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Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 06, 2022 07:00PM
Is there any indication that crude output has dropped, or is this all just gouging because the market is scared?



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Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: March 06, 2022 07:13PM
.....crude output has gone up....people are being cruder than normal.....



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Posted by: srf1957
Date: March 06, 2022 07:25PM
Paid. $3.85 Week ago Wed . Tuesday filled up $3.95 . Thursday some local stations were $4.17. Saturday they were $4.59 . Station in mini mart in my small town has an honest owner. Doesn't raise prices until he gets a new load of fuel. Currently selling for $4.24.
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Posted by: steve...
Date: March 06, 2022 07:35PM
$5.73 is the cheapest today for regular in my little town (6 gas stations total).

It's $4.52 thirty miles up the coast and across the state line in Brookings, OR.





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Posted by: PeterB
Date: March 06, 2022 07:40PM
I'm debating ... does it make more sense to buy now or wait? (I tend to buy in 20 gal amounts, save it using fuel stabilizer, and it lasts me for a LONG time, like 3-4 months at least...)

It really sucks, Winn-Dixie discontinued its FuelRewards program with Shell. Otherwise, I would have been getting something like $1.25 off per gal! (This one time, I got my 20 gals for about $13...)




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Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 06, 2022 07:59PM
Shell is usually the highest around here.



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Posted by: The UnDoug
Date: March 06, 2022 08:12PM
Around $4.39/gallon in the Philadelphia area. My sister in the Akron, OH area is only seeing $3.76/gallon. It always seems to be a lot cheaper there.



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Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 06, 2022 08:26PM
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The UnDoug
Around $4.39/gallon in the Philadelphia area. My sister in the Akron, OH area is only seeing $3.76/gallon. It always seems to be a lot cheaper there.

Then that tells me that they can refine crude, and transport product to Ohio, and still make a profit a $3.76. So prices well over $4 a gallon are gouging, in my opinion.



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Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Posted by: SKYLANE
Date: March 06, 2022 08:45PM
i paid 5.53 for regular here in Anaheim CA last week... Union 76
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Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: March 06, 2022 09:59PM
I'm ready for a profiteering tax, myself.
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Posted by: jdc
Date: March 06, 2022 10:27PM
In few months, Exxon (as well as many other oil Cos) will report record 2022 first quarter profits. banghead smiley





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Posted by: p8712
Date: March 06, 2022 10:29PM
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....well, electricity prices shot up too [ bill tripled ] so make sure to charge the EV at work, if you can, or charging station but not at home....

Been using The local university’s solar array and tesla batteries. Totally free. Zillions of other free chargers around here too. I think I’ve paid a total of five dollars for electricity since last September. That’s driving about 5000 miles.
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Posted by: jonny
Date: March 06, 2022 11:37PM
$4.80 in SF. But 50 mpg in my hybrid makes it more of a ‘meh’.



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Posted by: DP
Date: March 07, 2022 06:10AM
That is flat out price gouging.

This. It doesn't have to be this expensive. Yes, Putin's insanity is a factor but not the whole reason. That discussion would get this thread bumped to the Other Side.

And you EV drivers-don't forget that if your electricity comes from a coal-fired power plant you're putting more carbon in the air charging your vehicle. And the Powers That Be will be starting a tax on EVs to make up for losing the gas taxes.

Also, I just saw that car insurance is up to 30% higher for an EV...





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Posted by: Grateful11
Date: March 07, 2022 06:29AM
I've been following crude and gas prices for over 35 years. A relative of mine was heavily invested in gas and oil stocks and maybe that's why I became interested in tracking this stuff long ago.

First off there's no shortage of crude and gasoline. What I'm about to say is not propaganda, been using the website below for a long time.

In 2018 they had almost 1100 total rigs pumping oil and gas, that’s one reason it was so cheap. Then Covid came along and the rig count dropped to as low as 244 and Crude went into negative territory. As of February 25th it's still only back up to 650 total rigs. An excellent way for them to control the price. Want to to control price just keep the valves shut. Watch the quarterly profit report when it comes out for this quarter. OPEC also has not got back to pre-Covid levels.

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Posted by: Grateful11
Date: March 07, 2022 06:38AM
Glad we bought a used 2015 Prius Persona Edition last year. Averaging 48mpg. Short 2-5 mile trips getting 56-62mpg.





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Posted by: macphanatic
Date: March 07, 2022 06:58AM
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DP
That is flat out price gouging.

This. It doesn't have to be this expensive. Yes, Putin's insanity is a factor but not the whole reason. That discussion would get this thread bumped to the Other Side.

And you EV drivers-don't forget that if your electricity comes from a coal-fired power plant you're putting more carbon in the air charging your vehicle. And the Powers That Be will be starting a tax on EVs to make up for losing the gas taxes.

Also, I just saw that car insurance is up to 30% higher for an EV...

And the process of mining the materials, processing and disposal related to EV batteries is not environmentally friendly and come from emerging markets with other issues including human rights.
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Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: March 07, 2022 07:01AM
I love not caring about the price of gas.



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Posted by: mspace
Date: March 07, 2022 08:33AM
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I love not caring about the price of gas.

I feel that way too, except it will affect EVERYTHING, as ground deliveries, etc., are subject to gas prices.

So, it matters . . .
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Posted by: Ombligo
Date: March 07, 2022 11:09AM
often a large portion of the gas price is related taxes.

My county is always a nickel higher than surrounding counties because of taxes. But we are a penny cheaper on sales tax. People complain without knowing the facts.



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Posted by: wurm
Date: March 07, 2022 11:59AM
Filled up at BJ's today at $3.96/gal. There were about 10 bays, each with at least two vehicles waiting. First time I've waited in a line for gasoline since the odd/even days of 1974.

While I was pumping, the guy was changing the sign to $3.99/gal.
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Posted by: macphanatic
Date: March 07, 2022 12:16PM
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ztirffritz
I love not caring about the price of gas.

The price of oil will impact everything. Oil is used for farming and fertilizer. The cost of certain grains has jumped 37% in the last few weeks. So, you should care as it impacts the cost of everything except air.
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Posted by: Michael
Date: March 07, 2022 02:06PM
It was $3.59 at a station on our way to kayak this morning when others were $3.99. My wife said to fill up then and I said I'd do it in 90 min when we were done and going back on the same side of the road as the station. Of course, my wife was right--$3.99 when we were off the water!
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Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 07, 2022 02:14PM
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First time I've waited in a line for gasoline since the odd/even days of 1974.

BJs must not have Costco's business volume. There is ALWAYS a line at the Costco pumps near me and has been for years.



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Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 07, 2022 02:54PM
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DP
That is flat out price gouging.

This. It doesn't have to be this expensive. Yes, Putin's insanity is a factor but not the whole reason. That discussion would get this thread bumped to the Other Side.

And you EV drivers-don't forget that if your electricity comes from a coal-fired power plant you're putting more carbon in the air charging your vehicle. And the Powers That Be will be starting a tax on EVs to make up for losing the gas taxes.

Also, I just saw that car insurance is up to 30% higher for an EV...

Washington State already has a tax on EVs and Plug-in hybrids. It is supposed to help pay for a plug-in network, but, of course, they haven't started building it yet..... It is an $80 line item on my Plug-in-Prius.



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The police have no duty to respond. See Castle Rock v. Gonzales, 545 U.S. 748 (2005) or Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981)

Judge Lee wrote that “we cannot jettison our constitutional rights, even if the goal behind a law is laudable." 9th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Posted by: graylocks
Date: March 07, 2022 04:04PM
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Racer X
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DP
That is flat out price gouging.

This. It doesn't have to be this expensive. Yes, Putin's insanity is a factor but not the whole reason. That discussion would get this thread bumped to the Other Side.

And you EV drivers-don't forget that if your electricity comes from a coal-fired power plant you're putting more carbon in the air charging your vehicle. And the Powers That Be will be starting a tax on EVs to make up for losing the gas taxes.

Also, I just saw that car insurance is up to 30% higher for an EV...

Washington State already has a tax on EVs and Plug-in hybrids. It is supposed to help pay for a plug-in network, but, of course, they haven't started building it yet..... It is an $80 line item on my Plug-in-Prius.

So does GA. I believe it's up to $230 for a full EV. doesn't apply to the Volt though unless you want the Eco plate that allows driving in the HOV lane with only the driver.



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Posted by: Markintosh
Date: March 07, 2022 04:29PM
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First off there's no shortage of crude and gasoline. What I'm about to say is not propaganda, been using the website below for a long time.

It seems like there is a lot of this going on...seems like the car companies have figured out if they just build half as many cars and charge twice as much...dealers also seem to like the ability to charge huge markups rather than talk about discounts.

Manufactured shortages...



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Posted by: bfd
Date: March 07, 2022 10:24PM
$4.85/gal for regular on base (Pendleton & NEX) is now the least expensive in the far southwest corner. But unless you have access, you'll pay much more. Least expensive off base is $5.39/gal at a few independents.

The "top tier" stations are more than $5.39/gal, and freeway stations - best to keep on driving. A few are over $6/gal. California gets slammed because of the excessive state taxes on gasoline. Gotta pay for those express lanes somehow …
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Posted by: srf1957
Date: March 08, 2022 05:44PM
taxes aren't that much of $4.59 gas . Local stations in Oregon show the tax amount . 23 cent federal and 35 cent state . They are talking about raising the state .
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Posted by: Steve G.
Date: March 08, 2022 10:10PM
$4.29-$4.39 yesterday locally in Queens
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