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Posted by: Fritz
Date: March 07, 2022 08:56AM
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Re: cobalt & car batts
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: March 07, 2022 11:54AM
As the article notes, solid-state (electrolyte) batteries should be in production vehicles by 2030.

IIRC, they'll offer about twice the capacity for the same weight/volume/cost as today's packs.

LFP only for me in the meantime.

Sorry, but apart from the small amount of cells in my laptop's battery I just can't trust nickel-cobalt-based packs.
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Re: cobalt & car batts
Posted by: Bixby
Date: March 07, 2022 01:48PM
I just wish we could get over the need-more-mileage mindset. Most of us, for most of our use, don't need even 100 miles per charge. But no, we need all the miles! Just like why so many people buy huge pickups but rarely use them to haul or tow.

I'd love to see more energy-dense batteries - mostly so it will get EVs lighter and help steal back some of the storage space that batteries take up.

But what we need even more is a better network of chargers. They should be EVERYWHERE. That's the best way to get rid of range anxiety.
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Re: cobalt & car batts
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: March 07, 2022 02:10PM
Well said Bixby on all three points.
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Re: cobalt & car batts
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: March 07, 2022 06:48PM
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Bixby
I just wish we could get over the need-more-mileage mindset. Most of us, for most of our use, don't need even 100 miles per charge. But no, we need all the miles! Just like why so many people buy huge pickups but rarely use them to haul or tow.

I'd love to see more energy-dense batteries - mostly so it will get EVs lighter and help steal back some of the storage space that batteries take up.

But what we need even more is a better network of chargers. They should be EVERYWHERE. That's the best way to get rid of range anxiety.

With solid-state batteries I believe we'll see 100 miles per charge on even plug-in hybrids...that's what I plan to buy next.
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Re: cobalt & car batts
Posted by: Racer X
Date: March 07, 2022 08:30PM
I've been hearing in another 2-5 years for about 15 years now for so many energy storage ideas that I refuse to believe it until I can touch them and buy them.

I've been waiting on terrahertz imaging to replace x-rays since the 90's. Gotta be some serious behind the scenes @#$%& going on holding it back. Gotta be lobbyists and taxes.



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Re: cobalt & car batts
Posted by: Rolando
Date: March 07, 2022 11:32PM
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I just wish we could get over the need-more-mileage mindset. Most of us, for most of our use, don't need even 100 miles per charge. But no, we need all the miles! Just like why so many people buy huge pickups but rarely use them to haul or tow.
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Re: cobalt & car batts
Posted by: Bixby
Date: March 08, 2022 11:21AM
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Rolando

The new Mada MX30 with a 100mile range, comes with a free loaner from your Mazda Dealer, up to 10 days a year for three years.

I think I read they're selling very poorly. Which is too bad, because the concept is good (make something that fits most people's needs most of the time). BUT - the execution is pretty poor IMO - it's WAY too expensive, and the suicide doors and space utilization is not great. And my Honda Fit is faster 0-60.

Now, if they were selling them for $20k, that'd be another story.
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Re: cobalt & car batts
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: March 09, 2022 09:53AM
IIRC the MX30 was described as "a California CARB-compliance vehicle."

Sure, at ~$20,000...
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