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Replacing Split Units. Cost?
Posted by: chopper
Date: May 06, 2022 09:01AM
I went outside and looked at our old Samsung Split units. Model UM26B1C2 we have two of them, one on each side of the house. Looks like the outside units were good for 12,500 BTU/h.

Has anyone priced these units or had them installed in the last decade? What did it cost?

Sounds like the Mitsubishi system has good reviews. Not sure I'd do Samsung again.
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Re: Replacing Split Units. Cost?
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: May 06, 2022 10:28AM
WIrecutter has an article on this: []

Their summary:

We found four leading brands in our research: Mitsubishi Electric, Fujitsu, LG, Daikin, and Panasonic (and a handful of smaller names, like Mirage). You probably don’t have a ton of choice on which exact pieces of equipment you need—that’s determined mostly by your home’s size, climate, and the heating and cooling needs you’re addressing. But you do have a choice to make on what brand you go with, and in a big market, you can take your pick among qualified installers recommended by each of those four manufacturers. We evaluated the options by looking broadly at the characteristics common to the brands as a whole—comparing things like warranty, aesthetic options, smart features, and other factors that would make a meaningful impact if we were shopping for ourselves. Here’s an overview by brand, in the order in which we would begin our search locally.

Mitsubishi Electric stands out in this field, for starters, by being among the most common and popular options available in North American markets. That translates to a larger pool of service technicians to choose from, better availability of more models, higher likelihood you’ll be able to design a system to fit your needs exactly, and potentially faster service for troubleshooting or repairs. They also have a reputation for durability. “I can count on one hand how many replacement parts I've had to put on a Mitsubishi mini-split system,” De Stasio said. “There are other brands where I can't say that.” If something does go wrong, Mitsubishi Electric’s limited 12-year parts warranty is among the best, and the brand’s popularity means lots of local utilities offer rebates. In Mitsubishi Electric’s brochure (PDF), you’ll find fairly limited aesthetic options for wall units, although matte silver and black wall unit finishes are available, and you can also consider ceiling mounts, floor mounts, or other special configurations. Mitsubishi Electric runs its smart features off a proprietary app, Kumo Cloud, which controls multiple zones via a clean-looking interface. The app seems to have picked up a lot of negative reviews initially (circa 2017), but usually works as expected according to several more recent reviews. We’ve just begun testing the app in summer 2019 and will update this guide with our notes.

LG is another big company that has advantages similar to Mitsubishi due to the company’s size, stability, and market saturation. You can find qualified LG installers in many metropolitan areas. Depending on the equipment involved, LG’s warranty can last up to 12 years, similar to Mitsubishi Electric’s, and LG’s local utility rebates vary by city, but they often cover at least some relevant mini-split equipment. LG’s catalog shows lots of aesthetic options on finishes for the wall units, and LG’s SmartThinQ app offers system-wide controls and reliable functionality. The app can potentially benefit some folks by also controlling other LG smart appliances at home, which would be convenient—and, to LG’s credit, after watching a lot of appliance makers’ apps have their ups and downs over the years, SmartThinQ’s roughly 3.5-star average across about 3,000 reviews is definitely above average for the category.

Daikin is another worldwide company that offers a large selection of units. They have a wide ranging network of installers and, like Mitsubishi and LG, a 12-year warranty for many of their products. The company offers many rebates as well as multiple control options.

Daikin and Fujitsu are fine alternatives to Mitsubishi Electric and LG. These may be lesser-known brands, but they both have wide-ranging networks of installers in most North American markets. The Fujitsu and Daikin warranties can last up to 12 years and both companies offer plenty of rebates. and local utilities offer rebates for lots of Fujitsu equipment, both in mini-split and conventional AC machinery. A minor reason we’d look to Mitsubishi Electric or LG first is that Daikin and Fujitsu offer relatively narrow choices on the look of the wall units, but fortunately, the various combinations of the system’s equipment still offer enough flexibility performance-wise to meet most homes’ needs. Daikin and Fujitsu offer similar smart-home functions to its competitors.

Panasonic shares the advantage of being a stable, global brand, but it has disadvantages relative to its other mainstream North American competitors. Panasonic’s shorter warranty (PDF) maxes out at 7 years, and there are fewer aesthetic options in Panasonic’s air-conditioning and heat-pump product catalog (PDF). There are qualified Panasonic installers scattered throughout major North American markets. Panasonic’s catalog (PDF) covers the basics, and it places less emphasis on smart capability than the competitors, referring to “internet control” of its devices. (We’re not seeing any apps meant to do this.)

There are other manufacturers out there, but we can’t really imagine bypassing these four options for a niche brand with weaker availability, selection, and customer support.
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Re: Replacing Split Units. Cost?
Posted by: chopper
Date: May 06, 2022 11:14AM
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Re: Replacing Split Units. Cost?
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: May 06, 2022 12:43PM
It might be worthwhile to go full on year-round heat pump, but it would likely be twice as much. Depending on the state, you could get State and Utility rebates for a high efficiency model that cuts your Winter heating bill by 10%-20%.

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Re: Replacing Split Units. Cost?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 06, 2022 02:13PM
What counts as old for one of those units?

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Re: Replacing Split Units. Cost?
Posted by: chopper
Date: May 06, 2022 03:22PM
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Re: Replacing Split Units. Cost?
Posted by: Bill in NC
Date: May 08, 2022 03:58PM
traditional split system or the newer mini-split?

Mitsubishi is the top of the latter...lesser brands might last 5 years from what I've read.
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