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Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: chopper
Date: May 12, 2022 01:11PM
When one orders a gourmet hot dog at a restaurant it comes very large and plump. Where does one obtain these larger dogs to make at home? The usual grocery stores have nothing like this ... they are the smaller "wieners".
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Carnos Jax
Date: May 12, 2022 01:17PM
I would be interested in an answer to this as well.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: May 12, 2022 01:19PM
More lips & a**holes.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Rolando
Date: May 12, 2022 01:24PM
Good question. I've seen "Brisket" Hot dogs. It seems a shame to to that to a nice cut of meat!



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: d4
Date: May 12, 2022 01:28PM
Is 1/4lb big enough?
Costco's quarter pound "beef dinner franks."







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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Robert M
Date: May 12, 2022 01:30PM
Chopper,

I think in many cases, it's less about gourmet and more about how much water is in the hot dog and how the restaurant cooks them. I've seen hot dogs from a gourmet restaurant served plump with a snap, hot dogs from a gourmet restaurant that aren't plump but still have the snap and hot dogs from a gourmet restaurant that aren't plump and have no snap. I won't buy a hot dog from the last place. Once was enough.

Robert
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: May 12, 2022 01:42PM
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More lips & a**holes.

Yes! Stuff 'em in there.

But also from both the pig and the cow are required in my opinion.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: jdc
Date: May 12, 2022 01:44PM
Not sure I would ever use the words "gourmet" and "hot dog" in the same sentence... ;)

But costcos are pretty good and pretty large.

I think restaurants boil them so they don't shrink.





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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: lost in space
Date: May 12, 2022 01:46PM
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Not sure I would ever use the words "gourmet" and "hot dog" in the same sentence... ;)

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When it comes to hot dogs, I prefer the descriptor "boutique"



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: freeradical
Date: May 12, 2022 01:50PM
Make your own. You'll need some hog casings. "Natural" is best...:-)
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Dennis S
Date: May 12, 2022 01:53PM
Sam’s or Costco might have plumper ones.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: May 12, 2022 02:09PM
Look for things called "sausages" on the package, rather than the term "hot dog". Part of it is a branding issue... the good ones don't want to be associated with what passes for a "hot dog".



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: MikeF
Date: May 12, 2022 02:13PM
Call them frankfurters:
[www.pearlmeat.com]
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Tiki2000
Date: May 12, 2022 03:00PM
Nathan's Colossal.
100% beef
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: d4
Date: May 12, 2022 03:02PM
If your "usual grocery stores" have all the meat pre-wrapped in plastic wrap on styrofoam trays, it might be a good time to look around for one with a full-service butcher department staffed by guys in white, bloody aprons and rubber boots.



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: vicrock
Date: May 12, 2022 03:09PM
At our house, we like Hebrew National quarter pounders.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 12, 2022 03:19PM
look for the word "dinner" but obviously there are big fat ones as well that aren't marked as such.



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: rz
Date: May 12, 2022 03:32PM
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Not sure I would ever use the words "gourmet" and "hot dog" in the same sentence... ;)

Then you've never been to Paris. Or at least haven't had a hot dog there. The best I've ever had was at a little place close to Notre Dame cathedral. Footlong hot dog on a french baguette smothered in cheese. I forget what I ordered, but after taking a bite of my wife's hot dog, I had to order one.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: mattkime
Date: May 12, 2022 03:44PM
They probably get them from a butcher.



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: JoeH
Date: May 12, 2022 04:02PM
Better brands work well, I sometimes splurge for Kayem or Deutschmacher (formerly a separate company, now owned by Kayem) franks. Made 6 to a pound they are definitely meatier than your standard 8 or 10 to pound hotdogs.

Cooking - some brands cook up well on a grill or in a fry pan. But others work better done in simmering water. Takes a bit of experimentation. Natural casing franks usually do better in water.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: jdc
Date: May 12, 2022 04:51PM
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Then you've never been to Paris. Or at least haven't had a hot dog there. The best I've ever had was at a little place close to Notre Dame cathedral. Footlong hot dog on a french baguette smothered in cheese. I forget what I ordered, but after taking a bite of my wife's hot dog, I had to order one.

I haven't, was it the dog, or the toppings? sounds yum.

I miss the costco polish dog...

we have a local "Weiner" place, been there a few times, mostly about the toppings.

[www.weinerworksmadison.com]





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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: wurm
Date: May 12, 2022 04:52PM
The word snap and hot dog shouldn't be used in the same sentence. I know, I know, but the I prefer not to know 'how the sausage is made'.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Racer X
Date: May 12, 2022 04:57PM
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Then you've never been to Paris. Or at least haven't had a hot dog there. The best I've ever had was at a little place close to Notre Dame cathedral. Footlong hot dog on a french baguette smothered in cheese. I forget what I ordered, but after taking a bite of my wife's hot dog, I had to order one.

I haven't, was it the dog, or the toppings? sounds yum.

I miss the costco polish dog...

we have a local "Weiner" place, been there a few times, mostly about the toppings.

[www.weinerworksmadison.com]

I found excuses to run errands near Costco just for the Polish dogs loaded with onions and a modest amount of mustard. Granted I burped all the way home.



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: testcase
Date: May 12, 2022 05:16PM
Is there a TRUE butcher and / or meat shop anywhere close by? In the NY Metro area, there was a line of Karl Ehmer Meat Shops that emoployed REAL butchers who were happy to talk with customers. YES, it WAS more expensive than a supermarket or wholesale club but, ANY meat I purchased there was FANTASTIC. If you're lucky enough to have a Karl Ehmer (or other PROFESSIONAL butcher shop) go and talk to a REAL butcher. You'll probably be amazed at what such a professional can do for you. old fogey smiley
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: May 12, 2022 05:18PM
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JoeH
Better brands work well, I sometimes splurge for Kayem or Deutschmacher (formerly a separate company, now owned by Kayem) franks. Made 6 to a pound they are definitely meatier than your standard 8 or 10 to pound hotdogs.

Cooking - some brands cook up well on a grill or in a fry pan. But others work better done in simmering water. Takes a bit of experimentation. Natural casing franks usually do better in water.

Make a few slices on the dogs when grilling to prevent bursting. But yeah, some dogs are better boiled. Nothing like getting that lunchtime dog from the steamer tin at the back of the "roach coach."
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: May 12, 2022 06:33PM
I've never seen a gourmet hotdog so I don't know how big they are.

So I'm guessing they're bigger than the typical 1/4lb dog in supermarkets.

But I like Miller's larger hotdogs (1/4ln, I think) and Safeway's signature brand.

I was extremely disappointed with Hebrew National pack I got at Costco.

Yes, 100& beef, but no taste, zero.

The taste test started with a dog alone, then with mayonnaise and bread, then with all the fixin's.

Zero taste.

Oscar Mayer Beef Bologna tastes much better, probably because of 'impurities'.

I'll give Nathan's a try, and maybe Casper's as well.

Traveling to a Casper's for a couple 1/4lb Casper Dogs uses to be a treat, but the flavor of the dog has been fairly inconsistent of late, from iconic to bland.

Wrapping the National dogs in bacon is a help.

Confidence is not high.


Safeway has some butchers, but I don't think they could do custom orders for hotdogs.

But finding a real butcher shop that could do that would be great.

A 1/3lb dog that was only a little longer than a slice of bread would be awesome.

I don't use buns, they go bad too quick.

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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: PeterB
Date: May 12, 2022 06:37PM
I haven't had a hot dog in literally over a decade.

Are they still as bad for you as has been claimed? Last I heard, they were saying that each dog takes 36 minutes off your lifespan.

I'm also wondering if the veggie (healthier?) options are any good... I've heard they are, but no personal experience.




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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: rz
Date: May 12, 2022 07:00PM
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Then you've never been to Paris. Or at least haven't had a hot dog there. The best I've ever had was at a little place close to Notre Dame cathedral. Footlong hot dog on a french baguette smothered in cheese. I forget what I ordered, but after taking a bite of my wife's hot dog, I had to order one.

I haven't, was it the dog, or the toppings? sounds yum.

Probably mostly the cheese and bread, but I definitely tasted the hot dog.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Buzz
Date: May 12, 2022 08:19PM
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They probably get them from a butcher.

Yep. Old (hot) dog + old trick = plump.
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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: MrNoBody
Date: May 12, 2022 09:05PM
the big name hot dog brands are now subs of multinational corps:
Hebrew National is ConAgra.
Nathan's is Smithfield Foods a sub. of the WH Group (China).
Oscar Mayer is owned by Kraft-Heinz (Berkshire Hathaway).

imho, you need to find an all beef sausage produced by an independent
packer like Vienna Beef or Manger's.



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: AllGold
Date: May 12, 2022 09:18PM
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the big name hot dog brands are now subs of multinational corps:
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Oscar Mayer is owned by Kraft-Heinz (Berkshire Hathaway).

My guess is Oscar Mayer never had anything remotely resembling "gourmet."



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: Speedy
Date: May 12, 2022 09:20PM
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I haven't had a hot dog in literally over a decade.

Same here but I occasionally have bratwurst.



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Re: Question About Hot Dogs
Posted by: AllGold
Date: May 12, 2022 09:26PM
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I haven't had a hot dog in literally over a decade.

Same here but I occasionally have bratwurst.

I haven't paid for a hot dog in over a decade--and quite possibly never--but I will eat one occasionally (maybe once or twice a year) when it's free.

I'm also definitely in the "prefer brats" camp.



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