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how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: June 07, 2022 08:10AM
Polestar 3 SUV

is there a rear window?





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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: June 07, 2022 08:16AM
Smoke & Mirrors.
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
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Date: June 07, 2022 08:18AM
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: DP
Date: June 07, 2022 08:23AM
Without researching it, there's probably a camera.





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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: OWC Jamie
Date: June 07, 2022 08:29AM
No mirrors, just cameras. My Cadillac CT5-V has a rear view mirror camera, and I absolutely love it.

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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Robert M
Date: June 07, 2022 08:29AM
Fritz,

Look at 48 secs in this video. It has a rear window. Far far from as much visibility as I'd like but it's there.

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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 07, 2022 08:30AM
There is a mirror on each side of the vehicle which is sufficient.

Except for the low profile tires, I like it!



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 07, 2022 08:36AM
Looks more like a crossover than an SUV.


The article states the rear window has a wiper.

Previous years show large but steeply angled rear window, so that may still be the case for the 2023.

I vote for a back up camera that feeds the rearview mirror while in motion, then reverts to back up duty when car is in Reverse.

Isn't there at least one vehicle that has cameras feeding the left and right mirrors?



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Lizabeth
Date: June 07, 2022 08:38AM
I've been car researching lately and the ones I've been dinging aren't the ones with a small back window so much as small back side windows - either poor design or whatnot. A back up camera I can live with but nobody's providing side cameras yet.
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Acer
Date: June 07, 2022 08:43AM
Wow, might even be worse than the rear view from my Prius.
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: June 07, 2022 08:49AM
In the US side cameras aren't legal. Mirrors are REQUIRED to be included with the vehicle at the time of sale. The end user can remove one, the other, or both depending on state laws.



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
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Date: June 07, 2022 08:55AM




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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 07, 2022 09:55AM
or both depending on state laws.


Hm.

It's curious that any state would allow both side mirrors to be removed.

A CA registered vehicle must have two mirrors, one being a left side mirror.

The other can be either a rearview (inside) mirror.

If view out the rear window is obstructed, then a right side mirror is also required.

There are specific exceptions where two side mirrors are required.

There is an additional exception or two, but for most of the motoring public, the above applies.

So, an CA owner could take delivery of a car, which would have three mirrors, and then remove the right side mirror for whatever reason.

Only when the view to the rear was obscured would he be in violation.

But no side mirrors?

That would be unique, here.



In the US side cameras aren't legal.


That's likely true if side cameras replaced any required mirrors.

That would be true in CA.

Maybe I saw an aftermarket kit that supplemented side mirrors.

As long as the internal and right side mirrors had an unobstructed view, a camera might legally replace the mirror.

It's a fine point, but I'm guessing side cameras aren't illegal, but it's having less than the legally required number of mirrors, at least in CA.






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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: June 07, 2022 10:08AM
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: June 07, 2022 10:57AM
this Polestar will be built in both gina and SC.
The vid makes it looks attractive, but we'll see what the final looks like coming off the SC line.



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: June 07, 2022 11:09AM
My son laughs at me because I ignore the backup camera and turn around to look. Old habits and honestly, I feel more secure doing it that way.



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Steve G.
Date: June 07, 2022 11:13AM
cameras are another doodad sacrificing utility for useless design points.
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: June 07, 2022 11:33AM
Weren't passenger door side mirrors optional until sometime in the 1970s? Point being: we have it better! Still. My ideal:

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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 07, 2022 12:47PM
I remember when the right side mirror was optional, If both side mirrors were optional, it had to be before the 50s.

I’m sure there was a point in time, that mirrors were optional, but I doubt any of us could remember that.






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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Thrift Store Scott
Date: June 07, 2022 12:53PM
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Weren't passenger door side mirrors optional until sometime in the 1970s? Point being: we have it better! Still. My ideal:


Yep, nobody is gonna sneak up on you from behind in a Volvo 240, or in a 740 for that matter. I was hoping the "high-pockets beltline with gunslits for windows" look in cars and SUVs would have run it's course by now, but apparently not.



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: June 07, 2022 01:01PM
Side and front cameras were originally intended to assist with slow speed navigation, whether parking or squeezing through a tight area.

The requirements for side mirrors didn't contemplate technology advances. Just like adaptive lighting, which was adopted outside the US and is slowly becoming acceptable. The move to cameras replacing side mirrors will eventually happen. the cameras can be arranged to provide a far better view of one's surroundings and eliminate blindspots. Add in the fact that the cameras can be positioned in such a way to minimize aerodynamic impact and it could help with fuel efficiency (or EV range improvements).
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: June 07, 2022 01:17PM
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Weren't passenger door side mirrors optional until sometime in the 1970s? Point being: we have it better! Still. My ideal:


What with the blockage of a clear view out? Rear passengers don't need no stinkin' headrests.

Well, they didn't even have the option in my '83 245.
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: June 07, 2022 01:20PM
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...the cameras can be arranged to provide a far better view of one's surroundings and eliminate blindspots. Add in the fact that the cameras can be positioned in such a way to minimize aerodynamic impact and it could help with fuel efficiency (or EV range improvements).

And cost a hell of a lot more than a mirror when they need to be replaced. XX $$$$
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: June 07, 2022 02:00PM
Mirror laws for all 50 states.

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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: June 07, 2022 03:59PM
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...the cameras can be arranged to provide a far better view of one's surroundings and eliminate blindspots. Add in the fact that the cameras can be positioned in such a way to minimize aerodynamic impact and it could help with fuel efficiency (or EV range improvements).

And cost a hell of a lot more than a mirror when they need to be replaced. XX $$$$

They don't stick out as far so far less likely to get torn off or damaged.
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: June 07, 2022 04:18PM
.....some guys like looking at rears.....others don't.....



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: PeterW
Date: June 07, 2022 07:09PM
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: June 07, 2022 07:27PM
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...the cameras can be arranged to provide a far better view of one's surroundings and eliminate blindspots. Add in the fact that the cameras can be positioned in such a way to minimize aerodynamic impact and it could help with fuel efficiency (or EV range improvements).

And cost a hell of a lot more than a mirror when they need to be replaced. XX $$$$

They don't stick out as far so far less likely to get torn off or damaged.

Get rear ended (pretty common) and there goes your backup camera. (The thread is about rear view.)
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 07, 2022 07:49PM
Get rear ended (pretty common) and there goes your backup camera. (The thread is about rear view.)


So what.

It gets fixed along with all the other damaged kit.






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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: June 07, 2022 08:03PM
Another angle on what view the rear window on that configuration may offer.





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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: June 07, 2022 09:29PM
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Get rear ended (pretty common) and there goes your backup camera. (The thread is about rear view.)


So what.

It gets fixed along with all the other damaged kit.

“So what”??? The cost of replacing it is what.
If your rearview mirror gets broken in an accident it would cost less to replace, but likely your whole car would have been totaled anyway.



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: June 08, 2022 07:03AM
A broken left or right side mirror can set you back $1k. You can ask my wife who now backs out of the garage much more slowly than in the past.



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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: June 08, 2022 07:15AM
With side and rear cameras, one can see far more than with mirrors and do so at one time. With AI, the cameras can help you avoid an accident.
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Re: how the heck do you see out the rear window?
Posted by: Fritz
Date: June 08, 2022 11:24AM
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You can ask my wife who now backs out of the garage much more slowly than in the past.

I tried blaming my wife.
But she wouldn't buy it coz she was in Fla at the time.
Lame excuse!



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