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I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 29, 2022 04:03PM
The handle on the toilet was starting to get a little tough to turn, so why not disassemble it and clean it up.

Yeah.

The tank has a lot of hairline cracks in the glaze or surface, but no water leaks, so no worries.

Except when I tried to loosen the nut inside the tank to remove the handle, the corner of the tank broke off, along one of the hairline cracks that ran across the center of the hole.

So I'm holding a corner chunk of the tank and the handle in one hand, and a pair of Channel-Locks in the other.

Still no leak from the tank, as the water level i s 2"+ below what was the hole for the handle.

Firstly, I need a strong glue for the ceramic or porcelain (?) tank.

Maybe of some consideration, I'm not sure, is that the chunk fits perfectly revealing only the aforementioned hairline crack, until I put the lid on the top of the tank.

The corner chunk is held in place and can't be moved, so so far, so good.

But I'm wondering if it's glued in place without the gap, will the lid put pressure on the now-gapless crack and cause another, potentially bigger problem.

Can I replace just the tank and not the whole toilet?

I realize the glue fix should be considered temporary, and replacement is very likely in my future, I'd just prefer it not be in my immediate future.






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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: June 29, 2022 04:07PM
Sounds like a job for J-B Weld! (Say that in movie voice)



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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: Michael
Date: June 29, 2022 04:13PM
I used some Weld-Bond for a repair and had some left over. So I glued a lose piece of brick back onto a wall. That was 2 years ago and it's fine. I'd use Weld-Bond (or one of the other indoor/outdoor construction adhesives). If you're worried about the tank top hitting the repair area and causing it to fail you could put some plastic bumpers around the top but not on the repaired area to keep the tank top off the repair.

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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: Acer
Date: June 29, 2022 04:20PM
I'm learning to love 5-minute epoxy. Mixing step is a pain, but fast cure is so helpful when pieces are in places hard to clamp.
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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: June 29, 2022 04:43PM
Regular Super Glue worked for me when I maybe, perhaps, did the exact same thing to my toilet tank...



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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: Fritz
Date: June 29, 2022 05:28PM
" Can I replace just the tank and not the whole toilet? "

depends on the maker.
sometimes homies or lowes sells s&d's or ReStore if you have one nearby.
Some tanks will fit other bottoms. But that could be a rpitfa.



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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: DP
Date: June 29, 2022 05:41PM
J. B. Weld or Gorilla Glue (yes, just like those dumb commercials!) But you can usually replace the tank if it isn't too old of a model...







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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: mattkime
Date: June 29, 2022 05:47PM
How many gallon flush is that toilet?



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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: Ken Sp.
Date: June 29, 2022 06:57PM
Quote
RAMd®d
Can I replace just the tank and not the whole toilet?

Maybe, but you know it will crack the bottom when you try.

After you epoxy the piece together, get some fiberglass and put some, with epoxy over the break, inside to provide strength. Make it 1-2 inches wider, to carry the load-Pun not intended :-)

Good luck!!
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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: BernDog
Date: June 29, 2022 07:10PM
I’d go superglue first. It’s almost like it was custom made for porcelain. I’m partial to the gel stuff. It’s a little easier to control. Works just the same.

(Actually, I’d just replace the terlett, but since that’s not what you asked…)
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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: davester
Date: June 29, 2022 07:17PM
Epoxy is more likely to hold, though superglue may be a quicker fix. If you use superglue, make sure that you get some with a little viscosity. If the glue is too liquidy then it will get sucked into the porosity of the ceramic and won't bond the broken surface well.



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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: June 29, 2022 07:54PM
This adventure sounded very familiar. Then I realized, it’s just another rip roaring saga from the vast compendium, “Tales of the DIYer” that we’ve all contributed to.

So I thought, as a public service, I’d just whip up a quick cut ‘n paste list of story fragments to make life a little easier for us all, when we share our own reminisces of deering-(didn’t quite)do.
  • was starting to get a little
  • so why not
  • so no worries
  • except
  • I tried to loosen
  • broke off
  • so I'm holding
  • in one hand
  • in the other
  • what was the hole
  • need a strong glue
  • until I put the
  • can I replace the
  • and not the whole
  • replacement is very likely

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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: JoeH
Date: June 29, 2022 08:19PM
Quote
Fritz
" Can I replace just the tank and not the whole toilet? "

depends on the maker.
sometimes homies or lowes sells s&d's or ReStore if you have one nearby.
Some tanks will fit other bottoms. But that could be a rpitfa.

Building salvage yards sometimes have used toilets that you may be able to purchase a tank from. Again, it will depend on the make and model. Separating the tank from the bowl of a 2 piece toilet is not too bad if they were assembled correctly with brass bolts. But I had one that was a RPITA a few years ago, mild steel bolts had been used and they rusted and expanded in the holes of the tank. Managed to get the remains out without cracking either part that time.
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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
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Date: June 29, 2022 09:15PM


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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: June 29, 2022 09:34PM
Some assembly required.


LLOL!

I think I'll try some SuperGlue gel.

If that seems to hold, I can augment it with 'glass and glue inside the tank, as suggested.

Thank you everyone!






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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: Markintosh
Date: June 29, 2022 10:37PM
Maybe this is like putting your finger in a leak in the dike...and your toilet is giving you permission to go for a complete replacement. Next week your valve will leak, the following week the seat will crack...and then the wax ring will give out. Maybe a whole new toilet is the answer?



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Re: I did a bad, bad thing... And need strong, strong glue.
Posted by: deckeda
Date: June 30, 2022 11:00AM
Sorry to hear. Sounds like a tankless job.
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