.....severe burns....she first crashed in a garage, then drove off.....then crashed into a house.....



Anne Heche hospitalized for burns after she crashes car, setting Mar Vista home on fire

....Anne Heche, the Emmy-nominated actor known for “Gracie’s Choice” and “Vanished,” has been hospitalized after she crashed her car and caused a home to catch fire in Mar Vista on Friday.

The Los Angeles Fire Department reported a car crash in the 1700 block of South Walgrove Avenue before 11 a.m. on Friday. A post on the fire department’s official Twitter account said one person, who was critically injured, was rescued and hospitalized.

Fifty-nine firefighters arrived on the scene and took 65 minutes to fully contain and extinguish the fire, the Twitter report said.

LAFD said on its website that a “a female adult found within the vehicle” has been taken to a nearby “hospital by LAFD Paramedics in critical condition.” No other injuries were reported.


LAFD Alert-Knockdown - #MarVista Structure Fire 1766 S Walgrove Av MAP: [t.co] FS63; *Address Corrected*. Vehicle Struck/Entered Home Causing Fire. 59 Firefighters. 65 Minutes. One Critically Injured Person Rescued. DETAILS: [t.co]

— LAFD (@LAFD) August 5, 2022
The department did not identify Heche as the driver, but law enforcement officials confirmed to The Times that Heche is the registered owner of the vehicle. They said Heche suffered significant burns and was deemed to be under the influence and acting erratically.

TMZ first reported that witnesses saw Heche driving a blue Mini Cooper in their neighborhood. With videos and photos from the scene, the site said Heche first crashed into a garage of an apartment building.

Before residents could help Heche out of her car, she reversed and drove off, according to TMZ. Shortly after that, Heche crashed into a nearby home and ignited a fire in Mar Vista, a neighborhood on L.A.'s Westside.

A photo posted by TMZ showed Heche in the driver’s seat of the Mini Cooper, and a video captured her being rescued from the car and wheeled onto an ambulance. In the video, Heche was covered in a white cloth while on a stretcher.

A representative for Heche declined to comment when reached by The Times Friday.


crashes into......house......?!

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That's our "Costco" route street. Her crash site is just a few blocks from her old, good buddy Harrison Ford's plane crash site.

I may have to start thinking about going to a different Costco......
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......news said she was speeding, the car hit the curb and jumped into air and hit the house.....both car and house on fire......no one in house thankfully....

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......news said she was speeding, the car hit the curb and jumped into air and hit the house.....both car and house on fire......no one in house thankfully....

Additional reports.

TMZ

• Video reported as showing her speeding away from another, less severe accident shortly before the collision with the house.
• Ring doorbell video reported as showing her vehicle speeding down the street moments before the more serious accident.
• A still photo, reportedly from the first accident, of her behind the wheel of the car and in a cup holder next to the gearshift, a red capped bottle that looks as if it may have been a bottle of alcohol.

A report from ABC that includes information from a neighbor where he says there was in fact someone in the house at the time, apparently uninjured.

”Roy Morgen, a neighbor, told ABC7 the woman ran inside his home for safety.

"Luckily, she didn't get hurt and neither did her two dogs," said Morgen. "She happened to be sitting with them. She was just in the house with us to tell us that the dogs were sitting with her when the car came flying through, and the car stopped like two feet away from where she was sitting."”

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I saw video when it popped up on twitter yesterday. She crashed into a garage/storage building and people on site were trying to get her to come out of the car. She didn't - instead sped off and crashed again about a block or two away.

no doubt having a really bad day and will probably be charged with something before its over.

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I saw video when it popped up on twitter yesterday. She crashed into a garage/storage building and people on site were trying to get her to come out of the car. She didn't - instead sped off and crashed again about a block or two away.

no doubt having a really bad day and will probably be charged with something before its over.

If she really has burns over 40% of her body, there's really no need to charge her with anything... she'll be suffering for far longer, and far worse, than any sentence the criminal justice system can impose.
If not, though, throw the book at her.

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I saw video when it popped up on twitter yesterday. She crashed into a garage/storage building and people on site were trying to get her to come out of the car. She didn't - instead sped off and crashed again about a block or two away.

no doubt having a really bad day and will probably be charged with something before its over.

If she really has burns over 40% of her body, there's really no need to charge her with anything... she'll be suffering for far longer, and far worse, than any sentence the criminal justice system can impose.
If not, though, throw the book at her.

Don't have to jail someone to get a conviction on the record and suspend their license.

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I saw video when it popped up on twitter yesterday. She crashed into a garage/storage building and people on site were trying to get her to come out of the car. She didn't - instead sped off and crashed again about a block or two away.

no doubt having a really bad day and will probably be charged with something before its over.

If she really has burns over 40% of her body, there's really no need to charge her with anything... she'll be suffering for far longer, and far worse, than any sentence the criminal justice system can impose.
If not, though, throw the book at her.

I'm not saying she should or shouldn't be charged, but a house was destroyed thanks to her. She deserves a civil case against regardless of her injuries.

FYI: It has not been established that she was drinking.

Someone on the scene at the 1st collision got a shot of her car with a bottle in the front that had a red cap. Could have been vodka. Could have been a Coke.

For all we know, she had a stroke.

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I won't rush to judgement on this. She has a known history of mental illness and drug abuse. Either or both could be involved in the accident and her staying in the car after the first accident and driving off and crashing into the house. Let the crash investigators do their bit, and she will need medical care for quite a bit for the burns.

I'm in favor of a civil suit, barring any details of a medical condition or some other mitigating factor causing the accident...

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I saw video when it popped up on twitter yesterday. She crashed into a garage/storage building and people on site were trying to get her to come out of the car. She didn't - instead sped off and crashed again about a block or two away.

no doubt having a really bad day and will probably be charged with something before its over.

If she really has burns over 40% of her body, there's really no need to charge her with anything... she'll be suffering for far longer, and far worse, than any sentence the criminal justice system can impose.
If not, though, throw the book at her.

I'm not saying she should or shouldn't be charged, but a house was destroyed thanks to her. She deserves a civil case against regardless of her injuries.

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(picture from tabloid)

So what is the picture supposed to be showing in the circled area?

....supposed to be possible.....alcohol in the car [ this is at the first accident ]......

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....supposed to be possible.....alcohol in the car [ this is at the first accident ]......

That could easily be a bottle of Coca-Cola or Dr. Pepper.

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.....I didn't say it WAS alcohol....others are speculating about it....the picture is not clear enough....

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it's unconscionable to me that we keep letting people get away with murder (manslaughter if it makes others happy) because the person was behind the wheel of a car. In this case, no one was injured, but I think the analogy to a firearm is useful in this instance. Using a potentially deadly weapon in a negligent manner. A person whose gun accidentally discharges in a public setting is not given community service, are they?

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Hurts like a bastid...

I'd like to see her charged criminally, if an investigation supports it.

Make the conviction a matter of record, but do not suspend her license.

Revoke it.

A criminal conviction, if appropriate, would make a civil case that much easier.

She might be medically fit to face incarceration, given the amount of time it can take many DUI/DWI cases to reach the sentencing stage.

Certainly there is sufficient reason to delay trial proceeding while she heals.

Even if she doesn't set foot in a jail, she should be charged if the evidence supports it.

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....supposed to be possible.....alcohol in the car [ this is at the first accident ]......

That could easily be a bottle of Coca-Cola or Dr. Pepper.

Frankly, that would be a stretch, to my eye, but it’s difficult to say definitively. Given the violence of the final collision, the amount of debris, the fire and the length of time it’s reported it took to extract the car from the fire/crash site I won’t be surprised if the bottle is not recovered.

And of course even if it is somehow proven that it was an alcohol bottle, that’s not proof that she consumed any of it before driving. Could have been detritus left by an earlier passenger, simply being transported home or elsewhere, etc., etc.

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I guarantee the authorities had the hospital take a blood draw using implied consent.

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I guarantee the authorities had the hospital take a blood draw using implied consent.

Really? I recall at least one news story where hospital personnel were extremely adamant on authorities getting active consent (I’m not familiar with the exact terminology) unless they had a court order or exigent circumstances prevailed.

In the case that comes to mind, the officer involved not only did not receive compliance with his demand for testing, but in the end was actually terminated for his actions in trying to force compliance by hospital staff.

Was that an exception to the rule in your experience?

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....supposed to be possible.....alcohol in the car [ this is at the first accident ]......

That could easily be a bottle of Coca-Cola or Dr. Pepper.

Frankly, that would be a stretch, to my eye, but it’s difficult to say definitively. Given the violence of the final collision, the amount of debris, the fire and the length of time it’s reported it took to extract the car from the fire/crash site I won’t be surprised if the bottle is not recovered.

And of course even if it is somehow proven that it was an alcohol bottle, that’s not proof that she consumed any of it before driving. Could have been detritus left by an earlier passenger, simply being transported home or elsewhere, etc., etc.

CA has very specific laws about the transport of open alcoholic containers -- to wit, they are not permitted in any space in which the driver may access them while operating the vehicle.

Of course, it is also impossible to tell from that photo whether the seal on that container has been broken.

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It is what it is.

It's clear even in that grainy inset that bottle is not a Coke or Dr. Pepper bottle, not even a cylindrical soda bottle of any nature.

It's flask shaped and looks to be very much like the the Travel Size Smirnoff^® depicted above.

In CA, implied consent applies only after an arrest.

Anyone can still refuse to submit to a chemical test, but there are legal penalties for doing so.

If a driver is charged with a felony or if impairment is due to drugs, then their refusal is moot.

Having the right to take blood (warrant, felony arrest, DUI) isn't the same as getting it.

Just because the law says police can require a blood sample doesn't mean all doctors will comply.

They're seldom arrested for failure to comply, it seldom plays well in court.

In Heche's case, unless blood samples were taken and preserved immediately, getting a reliable BA later is highly problematic, as would getting a conviction.

I expect the bottle will be/has been recovered, but it's evidentiary value, circumstantial to begin with, will be nil.

Once upon a time, there was Fairmont Alameda County Hospital (FACH) in San Leandro CA.

The Sheriff's Office and CHP would take sometimes DUI arrests there for blood tests.

There was a particular RN there who would take blood (samples) from qualified arrestees when a doctor might refuse because the arrestee didn't consent.


In the case that comes to mind, the officer involved not only did not receive compliance with his demand for testing, but in the end was actually terminated for his actions in trying to force compliance by hospital staff.


The cop really must have gone over the top, to get fired for demanding blood.

That seems like an exceptional response.

I remember calls to Watch Commanders complaining of a cop demanding cooperation, but never any official action being taken against him/here, let alone being fired.

Cops make DUI arrests, want blood, that's what cops do.

Docs refuse, that's what docs do.

Arguments ensue (ok, not all the time).

To be clear, blood draws are usually only pursued for suspected DUI collisions, especially with injury or death, normally not for the typical 'two beers' weaver.

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I’ll try and get some time to Google-fu the story. It well may have been not the what, but the how of his asking that landed him in hot water.

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It well may have been not the what, but the how of his asking that landed him in hot water.


It would certainly be for the how.

In CA a cop can't has someone claiming his dog is a service dog to prove it.

A cop can't even ask 'Is that a service dog?.

It's even taught in currant POST certified academies.

But he can, without a warrant, ask a doctor for a blood sample.

The cop/doc dynamic varies with their personalities, but is usually more predictable then not.

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There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

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I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

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You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

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But he can, without a warrant, ask a doctor for a blood sample.

The cop/doc dynamic varies with their personalities, but is usually more predictable then not.

Yes, he can ask, but the doctor is under no obligation in most cases to provide that blood sample without a warrant. Hospital and medical practice policies may very well preclude providing that sample without a warrant except in the few cases where laws do require it. Policies may require keeping such samples obtained during treatment in case a warrant is provided in the future.

….LAPD obtained warrant for blood sample…..

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One woman lost her house and almost all of her possessions. I'm guessing that a large civil suit will be filed shortly.