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Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: mspace
Date: August 16, 2022 08:43AM
We got rid of our 1999 Subaru Legacy after it was hit when parked for the second time. Sigh. Loved it, ran well, but the body was on its way out. Also, we were just moving it for alternate side parking more than anything (a NYC thing).

Now we use ZipCar. They just changed us from a Honda Civic to a Toyota Prius for our next reservation!

Never been in or driven a Prius before! I'm sure there's a lot to know and I don't really want to waste rental time with a learning curve. All the driving will be city and highway.

Any advice about what to know in advance? Any place to get good info?

Thanks!
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: Bixby
Date: August 16, 2022 08:51AM
Press the gas to go, brakes to stop? Not sure what you think there is to learn about it, other than getting used to the speedometer being over in the center. And if you've not driven a hybrid before, getting used to it being silent when you first 'start' it. It's pretty much a regular car these days.
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: wurm
Date: August 16, 2022 09:09AM
When I had my 2012 Prius C, the biggest thing I had to get used to was the brakes, especially first thing in the morning. I found that if I didn't sort of 'ride the brake' for a few seconds before I really needed it, it would grab like a sonaofagun. Good way to check the seat belts. I think it had something to do with the regenerative braking. Once I learned that trick, it was great.

Here's a thread about it: [priuschat.com]

The last coment pretty much says it all:

This is a PriusChat-famous issue for all Prii, in fact it (and the solution) were probably the very first things I learned from PriusChat when I bought my Gen 1.

Getting in the car after wet weather? Brakes noisy and/or grabby? Make two or three stops from a moderate neighborhood speed, in neutral. Neutral keeps regen out of the picture so those are pure hydraulic stops. Silent again as the day you bought the car. Works every time. smiling smiley

It's just a Prius-driving routine.
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: August 16, 2022 09:10AM
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Bixby
Press the gas to go, brakes to stop? Not sure what you think there is to learn about it, other than getting used to the speedometer being over in the center. And if you've not driven a hybrid before, getting used to it being silent when you first 'start' it. It's pretty much a regular car these days.

Well - there is that "Start Button" thing to get used to...this video might be of help
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: August 16, 2022 09:21AM
Yup... Right pedal - Go. Left pedal - Stop.
Start button (in my 2007) only has one quirk... if you just do a "quick poke and release", it will go into "accessory" mode, meaning to start the car, you have to turn it off, and back on again. I have to hold the start button for a quick "one-one-thousand" count before releasing. I don't know if that holds true of later models of Prius or not.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: pdq
Date: August 16, 2022 09:42AM
Yeah, over 10 years ago, my daughter and I took a Prius for a test drive from a dealership. About a block along, we stopped and shut off the car, cause the salesman’s explanation of how to start it was a little confusing. We wanted to make sure we could do it.

And for 5 minutes, we could not get it started. >: /

We finally had to run back to the dealership and get the salesman. He came back and started it in an instant. I can’t remember what the problem was, other than it might have been the first push-button-to-start car I had encountered.

I think it’s just put-foot-on-brake, press start button, but…
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: August 16, 2022 10:07AM
It's just a car. No big deal.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: August 16, 2022 10:15AM
Agree with the above.

Only one thing to above. Set up the dashboard so it shows MPG, averaged every couple of minutes. Then take a look at how MPG goes up and down depending on how much you lead-foot it.

Also, try the different modes-Electric, Econo, Sport. That was fun for me.
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: Paul F.
Date: August 16, 2022 10:36AM
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pdq
Yeah, over 10 years ago, my daughter and I took a Prius for a test drive from a dealership. About a block along, we stopped and shut off the car, cause the salesman’s explanation of how to start it was a little confusing. We wanted to make sure we could do it.

And for 5 minutes, we could not get it started. >: /

We finally had to run back to the dealership and get the salesman. He came back and started it in an instant. I can’t remember what the problem was, other than it might have been the first push-button-to-start car I had encountered.

I think it’s just put-foot-on-brake, press start button, but…

I'd be willing to bet you found the same "too short a press of the button" thing that I found... It really is "foot on brake, push button in a slightly leisurely manner".

There's no "procedure" or checklist... just foot on brake, push for a "one-one-thousand" and release.

It's harder to break ones-self of the habit of pulling ones keys out than it is to start the Prius. It took me YEARS to just leave the key-fob in my pocket rather than pull it out.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: freeradical
Date: August 16, 2022 11:13AM
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: ztirffritz
Date: August 16, 2022 11:30AM
I've found in my Volt that the breaks will be 'sticky' in the morning and it breaks loose at the first stop sign.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: August 16, 2022 11:32AM
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Paul F.
Start button (in my 2007) only has one quirk... if you just do a "quick poke and release", it will go into "accessory" mode, meaning to start the car, you have to turn it off, and back on again. I have to hold the start button for a quick "one-one-thousand" count before releasing. I don't know if that holds true of later models of Prius or not.

My 2014 Infiniti QX70 does the same thing. I think this is probably common to all cars with push button start.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: August 16, 2022 12:01PM
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mspace
Any advice about what to know in advance?

The backup-camera is really good.

The teeny tiny side mirrors end up throwing me more than the total lack of visibility out the back.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 16, 2022 12:39PM
I think this is probably common to all cars with push button start.


I'd think so, so an accidental brush of the button doesn't start the car.

It's also a good idea to learn how to turn the ignition off.

At least on one Toyota, that Start button has to be held for three seconds to kill the engine.

Not that it's likely, but knowing how to turn it off as a reflex could come in handy.






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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: August 16, 2022 12:45PM
Also, if the Prius is running on the gas engine, does it shut down when at a traffic light?

Does any eV shut down when stopped at a light, or is that the nature of an electric motor — when off the accelorator with the brake on, there's no 'engine' to idle.

So yeah it's 'just a car' but it seems there may be a quirk or two unique to an eV or the Prius that's handy to know about.

Maybe like the regen braking that can be turned on or off.






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There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

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We are a government of laws, not men.

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When a good man is hurt,
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: clay
Date: August 16, 2022 01:09PM
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Also, if the Prius is running on the gas engine, does it shut down when at a traffic light?

yes, unless you're running AC or anything similar. dead silent.
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: mspace
Date: August 16, 2022 01:44PM
Thanks all!

That was short lived. They just sent an email changing the Prius to a Honda HR-V.

Oh well. We were psyched to check out the Prius. Maybe next time. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: lost in space
Date: August 16, 2022 02:14PM
My only experience with a Prius was a day of driving a friend's. Aside from the stuff mentioned, I found that it felt like I was driving a simulator; response from the gas pedal and braking had a short lag, feeling remote.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: SDGuy
Date: August 16, 2022 03:32PM
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mspace
...That was short lived. They just sent an email changing the Prius to a Honda HR-V...

Only odd thing to note is the placement of the exterior handles for the rear doors - I've seen lots of folks stymied by them when first encountering a HR-V.
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 16, 2022 05:11PM
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Does any eV shut down when stopped at a light, or is that the nature of an electric motor — when off the accelorator with the brake on, there's no 'engine' to idle.

If I take my foot off the brake pedal my Volt (and ELR) will creep ahead. We have a small hill at the end of our street where the road has a stop sign. The cars will ‘hold’ on the slight upslope with no brakes applied so the motor must be always turning.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: Grateful11
Date: August 16, 2022 08:02PM
We're on our 2nd Prius, we bought a 2015 Prius Persona edition last Fall. I like them not much else to say about them.

On the 2010-2015 there can be head gasket issues, search for it. Nearest Prius specialist to us says he believe it's a reaction from the coolant and suggests changing the coolant every 50K miles.





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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 16, 2022 08:10PM
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RAMd®d
Does any eV shut down when stopped at a light, or is that the nature of an electric motor — when off the accelorator with the brake on, there's no 'engine' to idle.

If I take my foot off the brake pedal my Volt (and ELR) will creep ahead. We have a small hill at the end of our street where the road has a stop sign. The cars will ‘hold’ on the slight upslope with no brakes applied so the motor must be always turning.

It doesn't have to be that way. It's just an engineering choice to make the car behave like a gasser.
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 16, 2022 09:02PM
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AllGold
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Speedy
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RAMd®d
Does any eV shut down when stopped at a light, or is that the nature of an electric motor — when off the accelorator with the brake on, there's no 'engine' to idle.

If I take my foot off the brake pedal my Volt (and ELR) will creep ahead. We have a small hill at the end of our street where the road has a stop sign. The cars will ‘hold’ on the slight upslope with no brakes applied so the motor must be always turning.

It doesn't have to be that way. It's just an engineering choice to make the car behave like a gasser.

True. I concluded they did it so people would keep the brake pedal pressed like a gasser for safety purposes.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: testcase
Date: August 16, 2022 10:39PM
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ROTFL


Depending on the TRIM LEVEL, there may NOT be a "Back Up" camera (there are 4 or 5 trim levels depending on the model year). You DO need to be pressing the BRAKE PEDAL before a Prius will start (engine shut down is just a simple press of the Power button after you shift to "Park"). There are likely to be ALL SORTS of "advanced features" that you WILL NOT need for a short term rental. DO remember that the PRIMARY power for a Prius IS gasoline so, DON'T run the tank dry. Said gas tank is only about 10 gallons or so and you are likely to see over 400 miles before you'll need to refuel (I've had a few times of 500+ miles!). The electric drive is not likely to exceed 30 MPH for 20 ~ 30 miles.

All in all, the Prius is a simple, comfortable car to drive. It DOES have low ground clearance; don't get too close to curbs. Enjoy!
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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: August 16, 2022 11:11PM
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Depending on the TRIM LEVEL, there may NOT be a "Back Up" camera...

It's required by law for all vehicles made for sale in the US since mid 2018.

Prior to that, reverse cameras generally came in Toyotas with the navigation system upgrades.

If Hertz is still renting a 2017 Prius, I'll be very surprised.



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Re: Driving a Prius . . .?
Posted by: macphanatic
Date: August 17, 2022 07:22AM
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Depending on the TRIM LEVEL, there may NOT be a "Back Up" camera...

It's required by law for all vehicles made for sale in the US since mid 2018.

Prior to that, reverse cameras generally came in Toyotas with the navigation system upgrades.

If Hertz is still renting a 2017 Prius, I'll be very surprised.

For a while, they were renting anything that they could get their hands on. I got an Expedition that was obviously from a car service. All the windows were tinted far darker than factory. It was several years old and had 40k+ miles on it.
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