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Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 27, 2022 03:43PM
BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) has new train cars that seat fewer people than the previous cars. They say this is what people want. They do seem to like them more. But it just means I'm standing during the entire trip to San Francisco and then all the way back to Oakland (or San Leandro). How is that good?

The worst part is if I do happen to snag a seat, invariably an elder or preggo gets on board and I stare at everybody sitting down to see which one of them will give up their seat.

It's ALWAYS me!!! &%#$* @$%^& whine smiley We should have to take turns.

If my neighbors (the house with 9 cars) are making too much noise or doing something anti-social, I'm the only person that goes to talk to them. My other neighbors complain on social media but will never take action. The troublemakers think I'm the only person having a problem with them, which is the first thing that comes out of their mouths.

The last time I called the cops on the guy with the boomin system who refused to turn it down, they took him to jail. I didn't want that to happen. But why are you out here cuttin' up at 2:00 am blasting a sound system that could be used at a stadium with warrants you haven't addressed? I felt a little bad. But then I always do. I'm not trying to give people bad days.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: hal
Date: September 27, 2022 03:47PM
Those people are gonna get their bad days with or without your help.

Doing the right thing often isn't easy...
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: September 27, 2022 03:58PM
I’m the guy who “does stuff and gets stuff done.”

Few of those around me make more than a token effort.

Such is life.



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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Lew Zealand
Date: September 27, 2022 04:08PM
Vision my friend, what you describe is the price of being awesome.

Pity those other people whose lives are far less awesome.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 27, 2022 04:14PM
I feel pretty sucky about it. We're all supposed to be a team that looks out for each other.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: NewtonMP2100
Date: September 27, 2022 04:15PM
.....I had a vision of love....and it was all that you've given to me.....



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I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: gadje
Date: September 27, 2022 04:38PM
vision, you should run for president. We need more poeple like you.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Diana
Date: September 27, 2022 04:40PM
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vision63
I feel pretty sucky about it. We're all supposed to be a team that looks out for each other.

Don’t.

Yes, it would be great if everyone on the team pulled in the same direction, but you have some that don’t want to be on a team, that being a team player is just anathema to them so that they will make others lives difficult when they are called out. Then you have another group that are nominally team players, but cannot stand up to the anarchist (not Antichrist but *he* may be there /s) in their midst. They are weak and they cave, and many times they don’t see themselves that way. That only leaves the strong, of which you are one. It’s you that makes the team work, and it’s you that makes the community fair and rational. It’s hard being you.

Just know that without the strong, it would be even suckier.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Bernie
Date: September 27, 2022 05:05PM
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Lew Zealand
Vision my friend, what you describe is the price of being awesome.

Pity those other people whose lives are far less awesome.

LEAD by Example.

Sleep well.




Staunton, Virginia
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: September 27, 2022 05:41PM
"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing"
John Stuart Mill (of his own free will..)
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 27, 2022 06:26PM
I feel pretty sucky about it. We're all supposed to be a team that looks out for each other.


I feel your pain.

Looking around a BART car, I'll see people who could be looking out for each other, burying their heads in books, newspapers, or phones, most of them after glancing up, and burying their heads again.

But some look on, as if to say 'look at me, I'm sitting, you're not, too bad' as some elder or disabled person boards.

One can't really enforced manners and compassion on those who have none, but one can encourage those occupying the reserved seating to vacate.






I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: August West
Date: September 27, 2022 06:50PM
Bring your best self everyday.



“There comes a point where we need to stop just pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why they’re falling in."

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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 27, 2022 07:35PM
Looking around a BART car, I'll see people who could be looking out for each other, burying their heads in books, newspapers, or phones, most of them after glancing up, and burying their heads again.


I call bs. Newspapers? Aren't they extinct?
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: mattkime
Date: September 27, 2022 07:45PM
yes.



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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: vision63
Date: September 27, 2022 09:38PM
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mrbigstuff
Looking around a BART car, I'll see people who could be looking out for each other, burying their heads in books, newspapers, or phones, most of them after glancing up, and burying their heads again.


I call bs. Newspapers? Aren't they extinct?

To me, people aren't really conscious of what's going on around them. The routine of it all. Every time I've pointed out to a young seated guy someone that could use their seat, they've gotten up. I think people want to be kind. They're just either afraid or not paying attention.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: September 28, 2022 02:40AM
I call bs.


Then you've never been on a BART car, or you just don't pay attention.

Or — humor.






I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: September 28, 2022 06:59AM

Or — humor


This!
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: September 28, 2022 07:12AM
I can only control my actions, I will do what I believe is the right thing to do. At the end of the day, I want to feel good about my character.



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.” -- François de La Rochefoucauld

"Those who cannot accept the past are condemned to revise it." -- Geo. Mathias
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: mikebw
Date: September 28, 2022 08:14AM
It's worth it to you and the people you help, and that's good enough.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Blankity Blank
Date: September 28, 2022 09:08AM
This touches on a BIG thing that does my head in.

Screaming.

Women and kids are — and I’m not being hyperbolic here — constantly screaming in the vicinity of where I live. Even with kids, it can continue well past dark; 9pm or later.

The noise factor? Couldn’t care less. Been around on this dust ball long enough, I can filter out whatever needs filtering. But that’s the problem. I don’t want to turn a deaf ear to it. Obviously someone could be in trouble.

I peek and peer out the window. Have never seen anything yet (and may it stay that way). I listen like a junkyard dog to detect telltale signs — sounds of struggling, some ineffable distinction that says “fear” to your gut, utterances, anything beyond the scream(s) that might tip the scales towards action.

The frequency is such that I would be calling the cops every day, multiple times many days. Enough to likely border on being labeled a crank.

I’m lost on this one. Often I do call the cops. The cops get it done and do check it out. Never been contacted for a follow up. But those times I don’t call stay with me for awhile. What if?

Just another price of living in a big city? I have no idea.



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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 28, 2022 11:19AM
To vis' original point: I've made my peace with it. Some people are leaders and some people are followers. I'm a leader.



It is what it is.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: September 28, 2022 04:21PM
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N-OS X-tasy!
To vis' original point: I've made my peace with it. Some people are leaders and some people are followers. I'm a leader.

You are not just any leader - you are a FORUM LEADER! smileys with beer



“No persons are more frequently wrong, than those who will not admit they are wrong.” -- François de La Rochefoucauld

"Those who cannot accept the past are condemned to revise it." -- Geo. Mathias
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Diana
Date: September 28, 2022 05:03PM
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Ombligo
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N-OS X-tasy!
To vis' original point: I've made my peace with it. Some people are leaders and some people are followers. I'm a leader.

You are not just any leader - you are a FORUM LEADER! smileys with beer

smileys with beer
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: September 28, 2022 07:18PM
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Ombligo
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N-OS X-tasy!
To vis' original point: I've made my peace with it. Some people are leaders and some people are followers. I'm a leader.

You are not just any leader - you are a FORUM LEADER! smileys with beer

LOL - you have clearly forgotten about the time I was fired from a forum admin role. But thank you for the compliment. smiling smiley



It is what it is.
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: davester
Date: September 28, 2022 10:19PM
Vision, I suggest that you take solace and pride in the fact that every time you "do the thing" there are far more people than not who look up to you and think that you are awesome. If you do it enough some of those people will start emulating you. Don't stop!



"In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion." (1987) -- Carl Sagan
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Re: Don't you guys get tired of being the person that does the thing?
Posted by: Lux Interior
Date: September 29, 2022 10:09AM
Zipper merge?
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