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Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: gadje
Date: October 03, 2022 04:59PM
if I use Find My feature on an Apple M1/m2 MacBook air, it should be impossible to bypass and use by another user, is that correct? I'm trying to convince myself that it offers the same protection like an iPhone.

Also, son wants to take his M2 MacBook Air to school. I already made sure he is signed in into Find My and I can see it from my iPhone. Anything else you can recommend to prevent theft?

Thanks
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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: modelamac
Date: October 03, 2022 05:08PM
gadje,

"if I use Find My feature on an Apple M1/m2 MacBook air, it should be impossible to bypass and use by another user, is that correct? I'm trying to convince myself that it offers the same protection like an iPhone. "

That is my understanding as well. I think it is the OS (or iOS) that determines this and not the device itself. I have the same options on my 2018 MBA running Monterey.



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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: Gareth
Date: October 03, 2022 05:11PM
Find My may prevent re-use and make the laptop less valuable, but it isn't going to prevent theft. The thief isn't going to bother to figure out if Find My is on before they steal it.

So, for actual theft prevention, you'd want some sort of of physical lock. Which, sadly, requires some sort of add-on hardware usually adhered to the case, but sometimes there are screw-on adapters. Since case thinness has left the old "Kensington" lock hole out in the cold.
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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: Gareth
Date: October 03, 2022 05:14PM
Also, make sure your son doesn't have some stupidly simple user password (i.e. like their first name, which I know a lot of people use for their computer). It won't let them turn off Find My, but they'll be able to log into the user account which at least would let them show it as "working" and pawn it off to some unsuspecting buyer.
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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: Article Accelerator
Date: October 03, 2022 06:51PM
Two apropos articles from the mothership:

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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: October 03, 2022 07:09PM
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gadje
if I use Find My feature on an Apple M1/m2 MacBook air, it should be impossible to bypass and use by another user, is that correct? I'm trying to convince myself that it offers the same protection like an iPhone.

Not without FileVault active. With FileVault it works very much like an iPhone.

And if you turn on FileVault, please make sure that you have a reliable and ongoing backup in place.



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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: Rolando
Date: October 03, 2022 07:33PM
Apple's ability to lock a phone and now computer remotely makes them less attractive to professional thieves, since they are basically only useful as parts to a less than honest buyer/reseller.

Thief: Its a thousand dollar laptop! See it works!
Buyer: DO NOT OPEN THAT! it will report location! Get the hell out of here!
Thief: IT's worthless?
Buyer: Leave ti closed, I'll give you $20 for parts.


My SiL had her Pre-M1 laptop stolen. I showed her how to lock it with Find My and the cops went to its last location ping. And abandoned house in the hood. The house was empty. It never pinged again.



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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: October 03, 2022 09:00PM
I see now, Apple is making their laptops unrepairable so they aren't worth anything as parts and won't be stolen any more. RollingEyesSmiley5



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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: Grateful11
Date: October 03, 2022 09:15PM
My M1 MBP has finally stopped telling me I've left it behind at home after telling it several times to, 'Trust This Location'.



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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: October 03, 2022 10:22PM
Backup to iCloud and insure it.
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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: Tiangou
Date: October 03, 2022 10:31PM
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cbelt3
Backup to iCloud and insure it.

iCloud sync isn't a backup.



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Re: Apple Silicone and Theft Prevention
Posted by: cbelt3
Date: October 04, 2022 05:31AM
Tiangou... Ah, yes.. technically correct (the best kind of correct)
[support.apple.com]

I should have stated "Back up to a cloud service".
Most colleges nowadays are using one version of a cloud service or another so all work is in Google or Microsoft's cloud systems.

I gave each of my kids a portable hard drive with their Macbooks and had them time machine their laptops. Now I tell them to keep their files on a cloud drive.

At $20K a year, the data is valued far more than the laptop itself.
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