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it gets very technical, but the first half is something discussed here previously.

They do leave off one important factor about the <25 crowd.
Their ear buds or headphones are way too fkn loud.
I was on the train a few weeks ago and someone got on with their phone blaring their favorite bit of overly compressed poop music.
Or so I thought.
I got up to see the lone person at the other end of the train.
I was hearing his music from his ear buds, to the point of the lyric was (unfortunately) quite clear to me.

so it goes.

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We always use closed captioning. It saves having to replay a scene because of a couple of words of missed dialogue. I keep the remote close at hand to quickly dial down the musical score which is almost always way to loud compared to the dialogue.

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I use it when I miss a line of dialogue. I don't keep it on all the time, as I find it distracting--I read the lines and miss the action.

I wish CC was a one button touch, but every streamer has a different method.
I use CC sometimes with Irish (Derry Gilrs), cockney (Pennyworth) and Aussies (Rake) stuff.

If I have to use with a US made show or movie, no matter how much I'd like to watch, I will often find something else to watch.

My post audio brethren should know and do better. Especially with center channel dialog.
Unintelligible is utter bu115h1t ¡¡¡
But "producers" are just as much at fault.

Back when, I used to get stuff for playback from a very established NYC post mixer for broadcast events in a Beacon theater type places.
The stuff was crushed, echo'd/reverbed and overly bottomed.
Prod would complain about the work of the maroon they hired like it was my fault.
I got fed up and stopped taking work from that nittwork.
They were so busy trying to be "cool", the cooled in the audiences ear.

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I am hard of hearing. Used headphones when working at radio stations and used no protection when videoing bands. Subtitles are a blessing for my wife as she can turn down the TV and we can still tell what is being said in the BBC/Irish/Scottish/Welsh movies we love. However, even with tinnitus I managed to fail the hearing aid test at Costco.
I do feel sorry for the video game/music/pod people that crank it up. Hopefully they can find a way to cure poor hearing with stem cells or nano bots in the future.
Also, stealing my next band name - Poop Music

Absolutely necessary when watching Scottish murder mysteries on PBS.

But yes, doing radio work and attending concerts always kept volume low and wore earplugs. Never stay in the room on occasions with loud bands.

I hate needing to use subtitles, and closed captioning aren't subtitles, they're often worse than not using them.

It's as though some closed captioning was engineered by the same people who made it necessary in the first place.

I have a midrange hearing loss and tinnitus from years of small arms fire.

Thinking it was my problem, which it can be from time to time, I cursed myself before subs became more popular.

And cursed some closed captioning as it was and often is crap.

Using good headphones, cranking the volume, and having multiple replays of a garbled bit told me it was either the mixing or actor's mumbling that was far more often the issue, not my impaired ear.

Turning on subs and listening again to an unintelligible bit, I almost always saw the word that I would have never understood without subs.

That audio bit remained unintelligible.

Brits frequently complain about substandard audio quality of various shows, whereas it's rare that I see a mention about US shows by us folk.

It's not that our audio is better, at least not by my ears and kit.

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Unintelligible is utter bu115h1t ¡¡¡

Blame budgets.

And after, breakdowns in standards along the chain to presentation.

Then, In some higher end film circles, unintelligible is regarded as a valid creative choice.

ETA: Totally agree the addition of Scottish dialogue to the closed captioned list!

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I love hearing Scottish dialogue, and in most cases the use of closed captions is because phrases often spoken in English include Scottish words, and no amount of mixing magic can translate the dialog.

Then when the actual dialogue is revealed, I'm no better off knowing he or she just said ken and that it wasn't a proper name.

So words are looked up and learned, though context helps for at that moment.

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I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.

Anyone here use a device that amplifies dialogue over music?

"So words are looked up and learned, though context helps for at that moment."

I keep my googlie phone next to me when watching shows from across the pond.

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A good long-term investment is in hearing aid manufacturers

Most of us will be dead before that investment comes to fruition.

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Anyone here use a device that amplifies dialogue over music?

Many playback devices include the option to compress the dynamic range of a soundtrack or other audio signal.

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We went back and watched Ted Lasso again (great show!) with the subtitles on just to catch the jokes. Missed quite a few the first time around.

Having hearing loss means I make extensive use of subtitles. Interestingly in the last few months there have been three occasions where the subtitles have shown a word in a song that was not what I thought it was. These songs were all at least forty years old and on checking lyrics online I found I had been wrong all the time. Along with hearing loss I am also getting old so cannot remember the songs at the moment but am sure if they came up again I would know the correct words.

Paul

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Having hearing loss means I make extensive use of subtitles. Interestingly in the last few months there have been three occasions where the subtitles have shown a word in a song that was not what I thought it was. These songs were all at least forty years old and on checking lyrics online I found I had been wrong all the time. Along with hearing loss I am also getting old so cannot remember the songs at the moment but am sure if they came up again I would know the correct words.

Paul

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If I watch an old movie or tv show I do not need subtitles. Anything new is likely to need subtitles. I think that says my hearing isn't the primary problem.

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Sometimes they're essential:

British TV

Sometimes they're essential

That.Was.Brilliant.

(with apologies to all our friends across the pond and their ex-pats)

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I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.