A while back I got a Panasonic toaster oven on a rare Walmart sale find.

I say rare, because there's seldom any actual stock within 200mi of me.

Same with Target, but I digress.

So I've had this for some time and only recently decided to get an over thermometer to use in it.

$6 and an AMZ order, and I get a simple, basic model voted #1 by America's Test Kitchen.

My most commonly used temperature, 350ºF, is at the 1200 position, so that's convenient.

I turn on the over and set to Preheat at 350ºF, and wait for the near silent beep.

When it 'sounds', I check the temperature —280ºF.

So I start the oven and wait 15m and check again, still the same, and again 15m later, still the same.

Picking an arbitrary temperature of 420ºF to see what happens — BINGO!

350º bang on.

God knows how many meals I've undercooked in it.

So it appears I have to add 70ºF to any required temperature, but the oven maxes out at an indicated 450º, or 380º actual.

Yet if set to 390º or above, it will drop to 380º after 14m.

It's got a convection feature, but it cuts off at 10m.

Those aren't bugs, they're factory "features".

When this dies, I'll not get another Panasonic toaster oven.

I'll have to bite the bullet and maybe catch a Breville on sale or a refub.

If I live that long.

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That's interesting. I never thought to check the accuracy of the temperature of my air fryer. I might have to do that now.

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I'd bet God doesn't know how many undercooked meals you have made.
I think he (or she, or they) might be pretty busy musing over whether he (or she, or they) or not he should call the blue ball in the black hole pocket.

Panasonic makes toasters with front doors and a sliding shelf.
I'm surprised it could hit 380º. What happens in winter?
Panasonic makes cameras and phones.

Breville makes small kitchen appliances.

Saab makes combat technology.

Dogs make mans (or womans, or their) best friends.

Politicians, lawyers, insurance companies and CEOs make too much money.

You'll live that long. Just stay away from that last lot.

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It isn't the oven temperature that matters, it is the food temperature. Check the internal temperature of your food and you will be fine.

Even then, time at lower temperatures can kill off bacteria, which is the basis for Sous Vide cooking. Likewise, my smoker is adjusted for 220 degrees and the pork butt will be in it for 12 hours.

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It isn't the oven temperature that matters, it is the food temperature. Check the internal temperature of your food and you will be fine.

Internal temperature is the ultimate factor in food safety. Otherwise the only disadvantage of cooking at lower temperatures are browning or rising for the right length of time for the cake/pastry recipe. Or leaving the food at too low a temperature for too long such as in older style slow cookers on "Low".

Reminds me of the one Indian dish they stopped serving at the campus eateries I used while working at the university. It was a chicken dish that people not familiar with the spices would pass over because the spices would give the chicken meat a slight pinkish color. I knew the cook, and he explained that to so many people, but they had all been taught that chicken should be cooked until no red was visible. It had been cooked to an internal temperature of 165 F or higher, never gave me any problems. I missed it after it was gone, but the food service managers dropped it because it didn't sell.



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Ombligo
It isn't the oven temperature that matters, it is the food temperature. Check the internal temperature of your food and you will be fine.

True, but the internal food temperature can never exceed the oven temperature.

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It is what it is.

The oven temp doesn't matter unless you're cooking by elapsed time which wouldn't be terribly good. Treat yourself to an instant read temperature probe.

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Are you sure your thermometer is accurate?

I bought a recommended one a number of years ago, and was overcooking stuff, so I finally put it in boiling water, and it was, like, 20 degrees low. Fortunately, it was an adjustable, old-school analog one, so I was able to twist the nut on the backside and get it to read correctly.

Since then, my meats have been appropriately cooked.

Are you sure your thermometer is accurate?

this.

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gadje
Are you sure your thermometer is accurate?

this.

After 'calibrating' my two analog food thermometers, and having them lose calibration after being handled roughly by the other kitchen denizens, I ditched them and got a digital one. And then I checked IT. All good. Boiling water was 219F. Ice water was 32F.

your water boils at 219? mine boils at 212

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gadje
your water boils at 219? mine boils at 212

Weren't you aware that cbelt3's kitchen is around 3500 feet below sea level?

Are you sure your thermometer is accurate?


Yes.

I calibrated it by cooking something at the 'corrected' temperature, and it was terrific, something not accomplished by using the toaster's setting.


It isn't the oven temperature that matters, it is the food temperature.


Well of course it is.

But if the oven isn't hot enough, the food will take much longer to get to that temperature.

Not to mention changing temperature and times can adverse affect the texture of the food.

Ain't nobody got time for that.


Even then, time at lower temperatures can kill off bacteria, which is the basis for Sous Vide cooking.

I've posted a few times about sous vide cooking, but this isn't about that.


Treat yourself to an instant read temperature probe.


Already have one.

I only need it when in doubt, which I had no reason to be until reading about toaster oven temperature accuracy.

It makes much more sense to be able to count on the time/temperature of the oven than to have to use a probe repeatedly, on a regular basis.

This is especially true of a toaster oven where opening the door drops the temperature a lot, quickly.

Now that I have a handle on the oven's accuracy, I'm a happy man.

But I think there's a better oven in my future, and I'll verify it's accuracy.

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I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

I *love* SIGs. It's Glocks I hate.

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RAMd®d
It makes much more sense to be able to count on the time/temperature of the oven than to have to use a probe repeatedly, on a regular basis.

Thats why its often used in combo with a leave in thermometer. But you need to use them both because its difficult to hit the very center with a leave in thermometer. When pros say something is difficult, its reasonable to believe them.

That said, if you're doing something that already works for you then there's no reason to change.

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gadje
your water boils at 219? mine boils at 212

Weren't you aware that cbelt3's kitchen is around 3500 feet below sea level?

He’s Aquaman!