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New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: Grumpyguy
Date: January 26, 2023 10:52AM
It doesn’t mean the the new MBP M2’s are slower in everything but the M1 Pro beats it out in some

Here is a pretty good test outlining the results.

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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: gabester
Date: January 26, 2023 11:55AM
As I've said before, I've gone from fairly excited about the MacBook M2 Pro despite not coming in midnight to almost "meh" because of kneecapping like this. Thanks for more details...

It would be one thing if the RAM and SSD were not soldiered to the motherboard and/or it was viable for a modest cost ($50-200) to desolder the built-in chips and replace them... but realize that with the single chip and reduced performance you're also going to have reduced lifetime as modern Macs cannot boot without an operational internal SSD!



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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: Forrest
Date: January 26, 2023 12:27PM
Clearly the accountants are in charge at Apple and not the engineers. It's not rocket science. Dual Channel memory has been noticeably faster in PC's for the past decade. Apparently the same can be said for Apple's SSD's.
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: Buzz
Date: January 26, 2023 01:20PM
Got the major corporate discount on the maxed out M1 13" MBA, 16GB/2TB SSD, and it screams. I'm drooling over the new 16" M2 MBP, w/ at least a 1TB SSD to help avoid the SSD slows, but it may be awhile before drool become reality. Only gripe w/ the MBA is the screen size for the old guy eyes.

Eye doc's latest guesstimate is spring 2024 to redo the OEM cataracts w/ space-age replacements.... gotta get some mileage out of my pandemic era cornea surgeries.
Got lucky, since the eyeball surgicenter at UCLA is separate from the main hospital; the Covid shutdown wasn't an issue....
but the MBA's screen is currently too small for full time use, so the older/bigger MBP's still see plenty of duty.

Frustrating that AAPL can't/won't spread the love across all its wares, when clearly the technology is in their hip pocket. The internal boot thing bit us in the butt, too. Periwinkle M1 iMac was humming along beautifully via external 1TB TB-SSD running Monterey... which was set not to auto-update.... but..., internal SSD was evidently/accidentally set TO auto update, and when the iMac was somehow inadvertently booted into the internal SSD, and left percolating overnight, yep, it auto-updated to Ventura, and no mo Monterey for Mr. Blue.....
Probably shoulda made the two desktops noticeably different. Lesson learned.

Damnit Apple, BE NICER TO YOUR LOYAL CUSTOMERS!
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: PeterW
Date: January 26, 2023 01:42PM
And why can’t you reinstall Monterey and/or boot from the external?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/26/2023 01:43PM by PeterW.
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: Buzz
Date: January 26, 2023 01:50PM
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PeterW
And why can’t you reinstall Monterey and/or boot from the external?

Royal PITA, but maybe at some point....
Thus far just treating it as life lesson.
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: January 26, 2023 03:20PM
Isn’t the relative slowness just due to using an SSD which has one module rather than two?

And if so, isn’t the answer just to avoid the lowest tier of SSD?
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: STL
Date: January 26, 2023 04:51PM
Per article at the link the M2 MBP was faster than the M1 MBP except with Lightroom exporting while the user was multitasking. Swapping was more frequent with the M2 than the M1. Max Tech's recommendation to avoid the situation is to configure the M2 MBP with a higher capacity SSD or more RAM. Next higher choices are 1TB and 32GB.
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: Acer
Date: January 26, 2023 08:57PM
BELEAGURED!
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: rich in distress
Date: January 26, 2023 10:06PM
Well, avoiding multitasking while on a heavy workload is also a sensible choice.
Then again I haven checked the link so…
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: kj
Date: January 26, 2023 11:13PM
Yeah, if you want faster, pay for faster. It's actually nice to have a slower option for cheaper.
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: N-OS X-tasy!
Date: January 27, 2023 01:40AM
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It is what it is.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/2023 01:41AM by N-OS X-tasy!.
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Re: New MacBook Pros have slower SSDs and smaller heat sink.
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: January 27, 2023 09:28AM
Ok, so this video from macrumors.com (at about 10 minutes in) shows that this does NOT affect the larger SSDs, which are faster than the equivalent M1 SSD.

[www.macrumors.com]
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