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good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: April 04, 2023 06:42PM
seeking recommendations

price point $150ish, could go a little higher.

sound quality is number one, but durability is a close second.

mostly used for pop/rock but also some jazz and instrumental



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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: jonny
Date: April 04, 2023 06:48PM
I've never tried them, but some people swear by monoprice's offerings.
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: Ken Sp.
Date: April 04, 2023 07:17PM
Active noise cancelling?
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: mrbigstuff
Date: April 04, 2023 07:56PM
Good point, no active NC.

And to be more specific, comfy cans, definitely over the ear, not on the ear. Although I love my old AKG 140.



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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: Fritz
Date: April 04, 2023 08:33PM
Beyer, Sennheiser, Grado, AT50s, Shure,

for them kinds of music, the 1st 3.
Sennheiser, I'd say, are most comfortable.



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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: lost in space
Date: April 04, 2023 08:51PM
I really like the old standby Sony MDR-7506. Been around forever. Durable, fixable, and comfotable, but I don't like the heavy old-school coiled cable. Replacement pads are easy to find.







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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: JoeM
Date: April 04, 2023 09:09PM
I really like the Drop Sennheiser HDR 6xx:
[drop.com]

It’s a collaboration between Massdrop and Sennheiser, making the Sennheiser HD 650 at a lower cost.
I got mine for around $170 when they first came out. They’re a bit more now but worth it if you like the HD 650 and want to save some money.



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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: Rolando
Date: April 04, 2023 09:44PM
When I was a kid, my brother had some Senheisers with yellow Earpads. I thought they sounded great.
Is this them?
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: jonny
Date: April 04, 2023 10:04PM
What about planar headphones? Worth the price?
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: April 04, 2023 10:42PM
What about planar headphones? Worth the price?


I've only had one pair, my current HiFiMann cans.

LOL.

But they sound better than any other headphones I've ever had.

BUT they need a headphone amp and I use mine with a DAC/Amp.

So I'd say it depends on you're wallet and ability to resolve the sound.






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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: decay
Date: April 04, 2023 11:09PM
from that Drop site:

[drop.com]

$99

Definitely read the reviews.

For example:

Power Requirements: These have been tuned to be more efficient but because of this along with the low impedance powering it can be interesting. It's actually the hardest to drive entry-level Hifiman Headphone and harder to drive than the HE-4XX and HE-5XX because it requires noticeably higher current than them. Similar voltage requirements to the HE-4XX but higher current. Meaning you won't struggle to get them loud but to really make them sing you do need some power behind them. An apple dongle will get them loud but you really should use them with something better. pretty much anything with at least 3x the power of an apple dongle will work (so any good desktop-grade amp).

One example is a Nobsound for $52
[www.amazon.com]

[soundgearlab.com]



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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: April 05, 2023 12:07AM
This is probably the best, safest recommendation. You won't be unhappy with these.

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JoeM
I really like the Drop Sennheiser HDR 6xx:
[drop.com]

It’s a collaboration between Massdrop and Sennheiser, making the Sennheiser HD 650 at a lower cost.
I got mine for around $170 when they first came out. They’re a bit more now but worth it if you like the HD 650 and want to save some money.
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: April 05, 2023 12:08AM
This is this second best option, but not as safe....

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decay
from that Drop site:

[drop.com]

$99

Definitely read the reviews.

For example:

Power Requirements: These have been tuned to be more efficient but because of this along with the low impedance powering it can be interesting. It's actually the hardest to drive entry-level Hifiman Headphone and harder to drive than the HE-4XX and HE-5XX because it requires noticeably higher current than them. Similar voltage requirements to the HE-4XX but higher current. Meaning you won't struggle to get them loud but to really make them sing you do need some power behind them. An apple dongle will get them loud but you really should use them with something better. pretty much anything with at least 3x the power of an apple dongle will work (so any good desktop-grade amp).

One example is a Nobsound for $52
[www.amazon.com]

[soundgearlab.com]
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: anonymouse1
Date: April 05, 2023 12:08AM
By safe, I mean "least likely to disappoint."
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: d4
Date: April 05, 2023 08:11AM
Sennheiser HD 569
Refurbished. Shipped direct from manufacturer.
These were $180 new, about 5 years ago.

$89.95

[www.amazon.com]





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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: Sam3
Date: April 05, 2023 10:21AM
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I really like the old standby Sony MDR-7506. Been around forever. Durable, fixable, and comfotable, but I don't like the heavy old-school coiled cable. Replacement pads are easy to find.

I second these, I have them for work and they sound nice. The 7506 are still used in recording studios and film/video production houses, they are liked for their accuracy of sound.



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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: wurm
Date: April 05, 2023 10:26AM
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lost in space
I really like the old standby Sony MDR-7506. Been around forever. Durable, fixable, and comfotable, but I don't like the heavy old-school coiled cable. Replacement pads are easy to find.

I second these, I have them for work and they sound nice. The 7506 are still used in recording studios and film/video production houses, they are liked for their accuracy of sound.

I'll third this recommendation. I have a pair for work and a pair for home. And I just bought more (bigger) replacement earpads to give them some extended life.
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: deckeda
Date: April 05, 2023 10:42AM
Gonna have to hard disagree about the venerable 7506. They are the Yamaha NS-10M of headphones.

The NS-10M was a classic studio speaker renown for it's consistency, which only indirectly translates into "accuracy."

So many people know what the 7506 cans sound like (they are ancient) that they can then make adjustments based on that, which helps the music sound good on other things: Monitoring audio during production is a very different need than "listening to music" as an activity.

You'd never mistake either for an audiophile product, which needs to be pleasant under a wide variety of inputs to "sound good."

You asked about over the ear, and very few suggestions above are over the ear. The HiFiMans are (I have a different set from Rammie but also enjoy mine WITH a headphone amp.) And I think the Sennies mentioned are also over the ear. Either would be good, but don't expect great things simply plugging them into a Mac or an iPhone.
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: Fritz
Date: April 05, 2023 11:50AM
2nd the NOT rec for the 7506. Unless one likes bright (shrill).
Any Senn surround ear is gonna be more comfy for long periods (more than 15 mins) and be truer to the source mix.

Most of my buds mixing music use either then Senns or Beyers for the headphone ref, even though most younger end users are using In-Ears.
Turned up loud so I can hear them at the other end of the train car.



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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: spacescape
Date: April 05, 2023 12:06PM
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lost in space
I really like the old standby Sony MDR-7506. Been around forever. Durable, fixable, and comfotable, but I don't like the heavy old-school coiled cable. Replacement pads are easy to find.

I have a set of these... low miles... Bummed when I discovered that the foam was worn out but happy to see that they offer replacements... smiling smiley
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: Bixby
Date: April 05, 2023 12:24PM
The 7506s have a smiley-EQ sound to them - bumped up lows and highs, which makes them good for hearing stuff you need to fix in the studio but not the best for long-term listening as a consumer (especially with today's music). They're also closed, which will keep noise from annoying neighbors and keep out outside sounds, but also make long-term listening a bit less comfortable in that it will heat up your hears.

I'd echo the recommendation for the Drop Sennheiser cans. I've had my Senn HD580s for close to 30 years and still happy with them. i've replaced the pads a couple times and upgraded the cord (to the cord for the 600/650), but they're still great.
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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: RAMd®d
Date: April 05, 2023 01:15PM
You'd never mistake either for an audiophile product, which needs to be pleasant under a wide variety of inputs to "sound good."


True, but they're not audiophile priced.

I bought a pair about a year ago, and was very disappointed.

They have an overly bright sound, and are just unpleasant for relaxed listening.

I have a pair of ancient Sony MDR-V6 cans that sound much better and were also built better.

These 7506s are pretty cheaply made.

The price seems to be a big part of their professional popularity.

The sound reminds me of the ATH-50s, which I also found too bright for any lengthy listen, and they quickly fell out of favor.

I'd be careful choosing any 'professional' transducer for home use.

What works in the studio doesn't always work at all in the home, at least for entertainment value.

Hard core accuracy has it's place, but not in my house, and least not at the expense of tonal balance, and relaxed, long term listening (two-four hours).

My biggest annoyances are grainy highs, and boosted lows.

Right behind that is muddied midrange.

However, we like what we like, and that's hard to argue.

For me, the $125 price range 'good' headphones is something of a wasteland for new headphones, unless it's a sale price of much better headphones.

Were it me, I might try the Grado SR80x cans.

I've always wanted a pair, mainly of the WWII style, along with the good reviews for a moderate price.

Whatever you get, buy with a good return policy, and listen a lot, within the trial period.

I don't hold much regard for the 'burn-in' period, but that could easily be me and not the stuff of hand woven cable insulation maid from the hair of 12-year-old girls from the Andes mountains who've never partaken of processed sugar or a non-vegan diet.

Basically I try to by more than I can practically appreciate, and then grow into it.

Doesn't always work.

But then sometimes, there's that 'Eureka!' moment.






I am that Masked Man.

All you can do, is all you can do.

There’s trouble — it's time to play the sound of my people.

Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what you cheer for.

Insisting on your rights without acknowledging your responsibilities isn’t freedom, it’s adolescence.

I've been to the edge of the map, and there be monsters.

We are a government of laws, not men.

Everybody counts or nobody counts.

When a good man is hurt,
all who would be called good
must suffer with him.

You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead.

There is no safety for honest men except
by believing all possible evil of evil men.

We don’t do focus groups. They just ensure that you don’t offend anyone, and produce bland inoffensive products. —Sir Jonathan Ive

An armed society is a polite society.
And hope is a lousy defense.

You make me pull, I'll put you down.

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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: sekker
Date: April 05, 2023 01:49PM
Bose QC25 are close to your price range, and you do not HAVE to use ANC.

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Re: good over-the-ear headphones
Posted by: pdq
Date: April 06, 2023 08:27AM
You don’t mention bluetooth, but I don’t think I’d get a pair without. So convenient.

I assume BT doesn’t compress or otherwise mess up the sound?
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