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powered USB hub again
Posted by: Fritz
Date: August 04, 2023 07:17AM
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the 2nd is USB A, so am I correct in that the A won't pass the 10gbps as the C would? Or am I wrong about the spec related to the connectors?

And considering what August pointed out recently. The M1 spec is 10gbps on the c but 5 gbps on the A.



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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: Gareth
Date: August 04, 2023 11:06AM
USB-A can be 10Gbps or 5Gbps (thus contributing to more USB confusion).
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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: Fritz
Date: August 04, 2023 11:07AM
I love confusion.



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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 04, 2023 12:40PM
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Fritz
And considering what August pointed out recently. The M1 spec is 10gbps on the c but 5 gbps on the A.

Which M1? Only 2 Macs have 10 GB/s USB C ports, base Mac Studio front ports and second tier iMacs, 2 left ports.

Everything else is 40 GB/s.

Dunno why the USB A ports arent 10 GB/s, icne they easily could be, but whatever.





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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: Fritz
Date: August 04, 2023 12:50PM
aahh, even better. his are M1 minis. and I keep forgetting those are Tbolt 3 busses as well as USBc



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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 04, 2023 01:19PM
Think of USB C as the connection -- Thunderbolt is the "speed".

Thunderbolt (3 and 4) is for the last 5 years is always 40 GB/s, period.

But USB C "connections" can vary.





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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: Fritz
Date: August 04, 2023 01:22PM
where's ADB when you need it?



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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: Buzz
Date: August 04, 2023 02:54PM
Either should work, but Rosonway has all USB 3.1/3.2, 10Gb/s ports,
while the other only has three USB 3.1 ports, 2X USB C, and 1X USB A ports......,
+ four USB 3.0, 5Gb/s ports, + three charge only ports.

Good luck.
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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: Fritz
Date: August 04, 2023 03:07PM
I had the client order the Rosonway, but I was thinking perhaps swap for the other if only coz it has c ports and he is very tech challenged.

Like "this plug doesn't fit in this port".

Uh ..... use the adapter.

"what does it look like."

not kidding. and unfortunately, the SSDs don't have adapter equipped cables so that he wouldn't have to find the adapter.
But I think I'll stay with the Roson and hope for the best.



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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: August West
Date: August 04, 2023 04:14PM
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Apple
M1 Mini Specs:

Connections and Expansion

Two Thunderbolt / USB 4 ports with support for:
DisplayPort
Thunderbolt 3 (up to 40 Gb/s)
USB 4 (up to 40Gb/s)
USB 3.1 Gen 2 (up to 10 Gb/s)
Thunderbolt 2, HDMI, DVI, and VGA supported using adapters

When I read that it is telling me the USB-C connector on the M1 Mac Mini supports 10Gb/s



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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: jdc
Date: August 04, 2023 04:24PM
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August West
When I read that it is telling me the USB-C connector on the M1 Mac Mini supports 10Gb/s

You have to think of USB C as the "connection" -- not the speed. The port itself is "dumb", it cn only do what you tell it to.

The port supports Thunderbolt devices at *speeds* of up to 40 GB/s

The port also supports USB 3.1 Gen 2 devices at *speeds* of up to 10 GB/s

Meaning if you plug in a USB 3.1 Gen 2 case, you wont get more than 10 GB/s from the port.
Its not a limitation of the port type (USB C) -- but the device *speed*





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Re: powered USB hub again
Posted by: August West
Date: August 04, 2023 05:52PM
That's exactly how I understand it. Thanks.



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