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The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 05, 2023 05:38AM
Colorado, Utah, Arizona, ASU bolt for the Big 12. Washington and Oregon head for the Big 10. Cal, Stanford, Oregon State, Washington State is what’s left of the PAC-12 Conference. Previous commish and current one’s ineptitude tag teamed with the forces of greed to kill off a lovely power 5 conference.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2023 09:22AM by pRICE cUBE.
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Re: The PAC-12 Conference I’d most certainly dead now
Posted by: Ombligo
Date: August 05, 2023 06:08AM
Meanwhile in the ACC.....



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Re: The PAC-12 Conference I’d most certainly dead now
Posted by: Speedy
Date: August 05, 2023 07:06AM
I remember when Ohio State and Minnesota hated to play each other because of the long travel time.



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Re: The PAC-12 Conference I’d most certainly dead now
Posted by: DP
Date: August 05, 2023 07:39AM
The conversation around here is that some Big 10 teams won't play other Big 10 teams unless the season is longer. So how do you determine the Big 10 champion?

But, yeah, Bo Schembechler is rolling in his grave...







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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: mattkime
Date: August 05, 2023 11:38AM
What do college conferences even mean??



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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: Lemon Drop
Date: August 05, 2023 01:15PM
Seems like an opportunity to be honest about what DI college football is: a huge money-making operation.

Go ahead and organize into a national league with divisions, like the NFL. Let the players bargain and earn money from their work.
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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: btfc
Date: August 05, 2023 02:15PM
“ Go ahead and organize into a national league with divisions, like the NFL “

And ditch the unfair Bowl system for real playoffs.
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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: Filliam H. Muffman
Date: August 05, 2023 04:07PM
This seems like it was a battle of graft and corruption, and the PAC-12 brought a knife to a gun fight.



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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: Ca Bob
Date: August 05, 2023 06:53PM
I grew up watching USC football (never went there, just rooted for them as a kid and kept with it). When I was working at a midwestern university, I was asked if I had ever been to a Rose Bowl game, and I explained that I had been to 17 of them. I think half the time it was USC, and other times I would just show up on game day and find a ticket for ten dollars or so. In the early days, the Big 10 was the top conference, and I remember Illinois and Dick Butkus defeating U of Washington. Then came an era where the coast was above the Big 10 and pretty competitive with everybody else, including the southeast, who were in the process of discovering that staying segregated was keeping them down. I think the current dominance of the SEC has done the job on the Pac 12. I can remember when USC and Notre Dame were the expected powerhouses, but it is no more.

I guess my question is why the Big 10 would even want UCLA. And there are the other second-rate west coast teams that have been absorbed into the Big 10. Why would they want them?

The case of Stanford is curious. It has become one of the top ranking academic institutions, particularly in biology, math, physics, and all of the humanities. Would it be better off dropping football the way Chicago did a century ago, or downgrading to a more academic condition, sort of like Ivy League football? The major problem I see with that is that it would affect Stanford's standing in rugby.
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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: pRICE cUBE
Date: August 05, 2023 07:09PM
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Filliam H. Muffman
This seems like it was a battle of graft and corruption, and the PAC-12 brought a knife to a gun fight.

A butter knife at best. They should have been more aggressive overall. The two commissioners were acting as though the college football landscape was still in the 90’s.



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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: vision63
Date: August 05, 2023 11:01PM
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Ca Bob
I grew up watching USC football (never went there, just rooted for them as a kid and kept with it). When I was working at a midwestern university, I was asked if I had ever been to a Rose Bowl game, and I explained that I had been to 17 of them. I think half the time it was USC, and other times I would just show up on game day and find a ticket for ten dollars or so. In the early days, the Big 10 was the top conference, and I remember Illinois and Dick Butkus defeating U of Washington. Then came an era where the coast was above the Big 10 and pretty competitive with everybody else, including the southeast, who were in the process of discovering that staying segregated was keeping them down. I think the current dominance of the SEC has done the job on the Pac 12. I can remember when USC and Notre Dame were the expected powerhouses, but it is no more.

I guess my question is why the Big 10 would even want UCLA. And there are the other second-rate west coast teams that have been absorbed into the Big 10. Why would they want them?

The case of Stanford is curious. It has become one of the top ranking academic institutions, particularly in biology, math, physics, and all of the humanities. Would it be better off dropping football the way Chicago did a century ago, or downgrading to a more academic condition, sort of like Ivy League football? The major problem I see with that is that it would affect Stanford's standing in rugby.

Why do you say that about UCLA? They're the top 5th or 6th sports program in the country. Men's b-ball, Mick Cronin spent time at #1 and was 2 hurt players from winning it all. A final four and 2 sweet 16's in the past 3 seasons.
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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: DeusxMac
Date: August 06, 2023 01:07PM
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mattkime
What do college conferences even mean??

For that matter, what does college team membership mean anymore? The college players jump schools the way professionals players switch franchises,

So much for “Win one for The Gipper.”
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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: bfd
Date: August 06, 2023 03:57PM
As long as what's left is going to be PAC12 in name only…Mountain Worst Conference might see an opportunity - merge and call the new conference PACino, and have Al make the networks a media deal they can't refuse.
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Re: The PAC-12 Conference is most certainly dead now
Posted by: AllGold
Date: August 06, 2023 10:36PM
Maybe the Big Ten eventually will have a "Pac 12" division. wink smiley

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Ca Bob
I guess my question is why the Big 10 would even want UCLA. And there are the other second-rate west coast teams that have been absorbed into the Big 10. Why would they want them?

I assume you mean east coast, not west coast. The addition of second-rate teams to the Big Ten was always about money, specifically TV audience. That's the only reason Rutgers and Maryland were added.

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Ca Bob
The case of Stanford is curious. It has become one of the top ranking academic institutions, particularly in biology, math, physics, and all of the humanities. Would it be better off dropping football the way Chicago did a century ago, or downgrading to a more academic condition, sort of like Ivy League football? The major problem I see with that is that it would affect Stanford's standing in rugby.

Stanford has other successful athletic programs (i.e. women's basketball), not just football.
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