I saw on the web earlier today that you can set the max charge level to say 80% to reduce wear and tear on the battery. EVs do this, if you always stop at 80% or below, you extend battery life

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This is something I have always wondered about. Why don't all phones allow you to do this?

iOS has been doing this under Optimize Charging since iOS 13.

It doesn't cap it at 80% under all circumstances because some user need that extra 20%.

From what I've read, it's not the charging to 100% that's the problem, it's the device's battery/batteries 'sitting' at 100% for a protracted time.

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iOS has been doing this under Optimize Charging since iOS 13.

It doesn't cap it at 80% under all circumstances because some user need that extra 20%.

From what I've read, it's not the charging to 100% that's the problem, it's the device's battery/batteries 'sitting' at 100% for a protracted time.

I was under the impression it's both though in a laptop, sitting at 100% is easy if you rarely use it portably (like mine) while few phones sit at 100% for long.

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iOS has been doing this under Optimize Charging since iOS 13.

The iPhone 15 is different, though, in that it allows the user to force an 80% hard cap, so the phone will always only charge to 80%.

With optimized charging, the phone decides whether or not to charge to 80% or 100%.

The iPhone 15 is different, though, in that it allows the user to force an 80% hard cap, so the phone will always only charge to 80%.

With optimized charging, the phone decides whether or not to charge to 80% or 100%.


Yes, I got all that, hence my previous mention of people needing that 20%.

I think Optimize charging for iDevices represents a decent compromise.

Apple would have to include a battery of sufficient size that most users could get through a day quite easily with an 80% charge.

Yippee, even bigger 'Phones.

Otherwise, there would be howls of 'Why do I have to charge my 'Phone so often?!'

On that matter, I'd thing that most people would dramatically increase the life of the battery if they didn't let the charge fall to a low value.

I constantly see images of 'Phones showing <30% charge.

This eats up cycles quickly.

I can usually keep all my Li batteries at >50% charge and the health stays very good for longer than two years.

It took five years for my 5S' battery to get to 82%.

My 12 mini though, is down to 86% in three years, quicker than my 5S.

The mini got shortchanged in the battery capacity department, like my bike.

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This is something I have always wondered about. Why don't all phones allow you to do this?[/quote

My samsung has had it for a while. My 3 year old phone still has 80% battery health, so it does work it seems.

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"Defending your own life when in immediate danger to me is a basic right of each person. " Lemon Drop 11/17/2023 03:10 pm

Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008) Private citizens have the right under the Second Amendment to possess an ordinary type of weapon and use it for lawful, historically established situations such as self-defense in a home, even when there is no relationship to a local militia.

"The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner." Right to Keep and Bear Arms: Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, Ninety-seventh Congress, Second Session. U.S. Government Printing Office. 1982. Digitized September 30, 2008.

From the NYSRPA v Bruen "Today, we decline to adopt that two-part approach. . . . Despite the popularity of this two-step approach, it is one step too many. Step one of the predominant framework is broadly consistent with Heller, which demands a test rooted in the Second Amendment's text, as informed by history."

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This is something I have always wondered about. Why don't all phones allow you to do this?

My samsung has had it for a while. My 3 year old phone still has 80% battery health, so it does work it seems.

I'll look into it for the wife's iPhone.

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"Defending your own life when in immediate danger to me is a basic right of each person. " Lemon Drop 11/17/2023 03:10 pm

Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008) Private citizens have the right under the Second Amendment to possess an ordinary type of weapon and use it for lawful, historically established situations such as self-defense in a home, even when there is no relationship to a local militia.

"The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner." Right to Keep and Bear Arms: Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, Ninety-seventh Congress, Second Session. U.S. Government Printing Office. 1982. Digitized September 30, 2008.

From the NYSRPA v Bruen "Today, we decline to adopt that two-part approach. . . . Despite the popularity of this two-step approach, it is one step too many. Step one of the predominant framework is broadly consistent with Heller, which demands a test rooted in the Second Amendment's text, as informed by history."