1939 Packard Twelve 1707 Club Sedan

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~$4000 back in the day

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Talk about solidly built. I wonder what that thing weighs.

Friend of mine had a straight six Packard coupe. It idled at around 400 RPM, and from inside, you couldn't tell if it was running or not.

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~$4000 back in the day

Which would be ~$88,000 today; for reference, the cost of a nicely equipped BMW 5 Series or Mercedes Benz E-Class.

~ 5750 lbs.
Put an inboard motor on it and you could motor to jolly ol'.

"cost of a nicely equipped BMW 5 Series or Mercedes Benz E-Class. "

no comment.

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My old boss at the camera store in the mid 1970's had something similar, but it was in need of a lot work to be in anywhere near that condition.
I lost track of him about twenty years ago, and at that time the ol' classic still wasn't show-ready.

Those old, pre-war Packards were sweet rides.

Larry's (no relation to OWC Larry) looked more like this......


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~ 5750 lbs.

With a 12 cylinder engine that produced only 175 hp...33 Lbs/hp

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"cost of a nicely equipped BMW 5 Series or Mercedes Benz E-Class. "

no comment.

Point was, it would have been about the 1939 equivalent of those two 2023 samples; not the bottom of the line, but not the top.

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~ 5750 lbs.

With a 12 cylinder engine that produced only 175 hp...33 Lbs/hp

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"cost of a nicely equipped BMW 5 Series or Mercedes Benz E-Class. "

no comment.

Point was, it would have been about the 1939 equivalent of those two 2023 samples; not the bottom of the line, but not the top.

Max horsepower wasn't the goal, but the engine did put out a lot of torque, 366 lb-ft at 1400 RPM. It could do that over a broad range of RPMs.



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~ 5750 lbs.

With a 12 cylinder engine that produced only 175 hp...33 Lbs/hp

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"cost of a nicely equipped BMW 5 Series or Mercedes Benz E-Class. "

no comment.

Point was, it would have been about the 1939 equivalent of those two 2023 samples; not the bottom of the line, but not the top.

Max horsepower wasn't the goal, but the engine did put out a lot of torque, 366 lb-ft at 1400 RPM. It could die that over a broad range of RPMs.

Also that's a low compression, pre-WWII engine. I couldn't find the actual compression ratio for the 12 cylinder for 1939, but the 8 cylinder that year was running a little under 6.5/1.

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~ 5750 lbs.

With a 12 cylinder engine that produced only 175 hp...33 Lbs/hp

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Fritz
"cost of a nicely equipped BMW 5 Series or Mercedes Benz E-Class. "

no comment.

Point was, it would have been about the 1939 equivalent of those two 2023 samples; not the bottom of the line, but not the top.

Max horsepower wasn't the goal, but the engine did put out a lot of torque, 366 lb-ft at 1400 RPM. It could die that over a broad range of RPMs.

Also that's a low compression, pre-WWII engine. I couldn't find the actual compression ratio for the 12 cylinder for 1939, but the 8 cylinder that year was running a little under 6.5/1.

The engine was capable of a max compression ratio of 7:1, but the best info I have come across is that it varied by exact year and configuration. The lowest I have seen listed is for the early models around 1933, 6:1. There was a variant that reached about 185 HP just before production ended. Packard also varied the bore and stroke, with the last version getting a 1/4" longer stroke than the two earlier versions of the engine. Perhaps someone has compiled a complete list of the differing specifications over the range of production someplace, but I haven't come across one yet.

[www.conceptcarz.com]

maybe. they have a fair amount of info.

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[www.conceptcarz.com]

maybe. they have a fair amount of info.

Specs are there, but not compiled in one place. You have to step through individual models to find them. Doing spot checking, they also do some improper rounding off. For example the late model engines had a stroke of 4.25", they have it rounded off to 4.3".